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ATAR FAQ
« on: January 07, 2010, 06:54:22 pm »
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Well I thought that the new ATAR system might confuse some people so maybe we should have an FAQ?

Question:
So all the states get marked as one? Does that mean we all sit the same papers otherwise how would we compare to each other? If we are all sitting the same exam, isnt that a bit unfair because someone in melbourne could just sell the exam to someone in PERTH (4hrs behind) and that person could get A+ easy.:P
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 06:57:45 pm »
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I thought, atm, ATAR is name only, every state is still doing their individual education systems.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 07:10:44 pm »
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Same here.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 07:12:44 pm »
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I think the first steps of the National Curriculum will be implemented in 2011.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 07:28:05 pm »
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once the national curriculum is all implemented how different will it actually be to the current VCE system?
ie is it just a few name changes here and there or is it a massive restructure?
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 07:35:23 pm »
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Pretty sure it's just a name change from ENTER to ATAR in preparation for the implementation of the National Curriculum.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 07:36:36 pm »
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How do you think the VCE or whatever its gonna be would be structured when they implement a national curriculum? Would it be harder? I mean, competition would definitely rise but...
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 07:39:45 pm »
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It is only a name change from ENTER to ATAR. Like in Victoria, we undergo the VCE system and receive an ENTER score. In NSW, they undergo the HSC system and receive a UAI score. In other states they already have the ATAR name. Though a UAI and ENTER are calculated slightly differently, they are still very similar. Aka a 99 UAI and ENTER are practically the same score. I believe they brought the ATAR in to minimise confusion when applying for interstate unis
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 07:43:42 pm »
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Quote from: *ryan777* on January 07, 2010, 07:28:05 pm
once the national curriculum is all implemented how different will it actually be to the current VCE system?
ie is it just a few name changes here and there or is it a massive restructure?

The answer is, we're still not sure how this is exactly going to work. You can have a look at ACARA (Australian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority) website http://www.acara.edu.au/curriculum.html so why how they are going about developing the curriculum.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 07:44:42 pm »
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Yeah, they only started discussion on the English, Mathematics and History curriculums in October last year.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 07:45:02 pm »
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Thanks for the link! :)
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 09:02:30 pm »
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Until a complete National Curriculum (every subject) is implemented we will still complete VCE but the guidelines for English, Science, History etc would be Australia-wide. I'm not sure if they would be marked against the state or country though.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2010, 09:28:51 pm »
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Quote from: jimmy999 on January 07, 2010, 07:39:45 pm
It is only a name change from ENTER to ATAR. Like in Victoria, we undergo the VCE system and receive an ENTER score. In NSW, they undergo the HSC system and receive a UAI score. In other states they already have the ATAR name. Though a UAI and ENTER are calculated slightly differently, they are still very similar. Aka a 99 UAI and ENTER are practically the same score. I believe they brought the ATAR in to minimise confusion when applying for interstate unis

The only states that had the ATAR before anyone else was NSW and ACT.  Now pretty much every other state and territory except QLD because they run on a totally different system is changing just their name to ATAR.
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2010, 09:32:26 pm »
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Quote from: Gloamglozer on January 07, 2010, 09:28:51 pm
Quote from: jimmy999 on January 07, 2010, 07:39:45 pm
It is only a name change from ENTER to ATAR. Like in Victoria, we undergo the VCE system and receive an ENTER score. In NSW, they undergo the HSC system and receive a UAI score. In other states they already have the ATAR name. Though a UAI and ENTER are calculated slightly differently, they are still very similar. Aka a 99 UAI and ENTER are practically the same score. I believe they brought the ATAR in to minimise confusion when applying for interstate unis

The only states that had the ATAR before anyone else was NSW and ACT.  Now pretty much every other state and territory except QLD because they run on a totally different system is changing just their name to ATAR.

Would they still do the exams separately as a state, or is it going national?
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Re: ATAR FAQ
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2010, 09:40:44 pm »
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Quote from: brightsky on January 07, 2010, 09:32:26 pm
Would they still do the exams separately as a state, or is it going national?

Part of the Legal Studies course has to do with Victorian Parliament, Victorian laws, etc. so I dont see how its possible for them to change the Legal Studies courses for each state at least. Unless they abolish the states... A few other subjects would be the same.

Theyd probably just scale subjects against each other like we already do.
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