a word on christian and catholic schools.....

[red bull]

is it true that if u attend a christian or catholic school u must undetake religion and society as 1 of ur subjects?

[stonecold]

Depends on the school.  At lot of them, yes, it is compulsory that you take either R+S or T+T as a VCE subject.

[m@tty]

is it true that if u attend a christian or catholic school u must undetake religion and society as 1 of ur subjects?

Not the one I currently go to. Though, at my previous school, yes. You had to undertake a religion subject, not Religion and Society, rather, Certificate 4 in Christian ministry.

[sgeorge]

I go to a baptist school if that counts. There is the option of taking text and traditions, but it's not compulsory and very few actually undertake the subject.

[brightsky]

That applies for some. I am conjecturing that schools such as Mt Scopus coerce you into doing Religion in VCE by their school rules. Probably Bialik does as well.

[luken93]

I go to one (unfortunately) and we have to undertake a religious subject in year 12. We have an option between Religion and Society 3/4, or there are 2 other subjects that don't recieve a study score, but yes, it is compulsory that we must do 1. (Might not be doing any Religion work in Religion class however)

[Gloamglozer]

I remember at my school it was compulsory to do one of:

1.  Religion and Society 1+2
2.  Religion and Society 3+4
3.  Text and Traditions 3+4

Of course picking option 1, you will not get a study score and it will not count towards your ENTER (ATAR) but picking the last two automatically gave you a year 12 subject and fulfills the RE component.

In year 12, rather than have classes, I remember every Tuesday fortnight we would have seminars running for most of the day and in those seminars we would cover a whole variety of contemporary issues that young people deal with in life after year 12.

[squance]

At my old school (a Christian school), all VCE students had to take Units 1,2,3 and 4 of Texts and Traditions. No exceptions.

A lot of people hated this and did very little work in it hence crap study scores for this subject.

Some who went to church on a regular basis would be like, "I learn this stuff at church; why do I have to learn it again at school?"

[GerrySly]

We didn't have to, but most did anyway (school had a way of forcing us into it but making it look like we picked it)

[red bull]

in the case that u are forced to take 1 of text and traditions or religion and society as a subject, what happens if u aren't a catholic or christian? For example, my cousin goes to a catholic school but she personally has been brought up as a buddhist. Can they still force u to take the subject or in this case can u choose to undertake the subjects that u wish to undertake?

[m@tty]

I don't know if they are actually allowed to force you. Though I imagine they probably can. The question in the given case is: Why are they at a Catholic School?

[Gloamglozer]

in the case that u are forced to take 1 of text and traditions or religion and society as a subject, what happens if u aren't a catholic or christian? For example, my cousin goes to a catholic school but she personally has been brought up as a buddhist. Can they still force u to take the subject or in this case can u choose to undertake the subjects that u wish to undertake?

Most students at the school are followers of the denomination of the school since the school screens out only the ones they want at the time of enrollment and in this case, it's selective based on religion.

However, there will always be people who aren't believers and in their case, they usually pick R&S 1+2 since it doesn't count towards your VCE.  Having said that, the school does encourage them to pursue either R&S 3+4 or T+T.

Although I said that they mostly do R&S 1+2, at my school we have had atheists duxing R&S 3+4...  So I dunno how that worked lol.

EDIT:

I on't know if they are actually allowed to force you. Though I imagine they probably can. The question in the given case is: Why are they at a Catholic School?

Yes, it is compulsory and the school does make it one of your year 11 subjects at my school.  There haven't been any issues about it from a parent's point of view so the school is fine.

[sgeorge]

As m@tty said, they would probably force you because they chose to go to that school, hence accepting (whether they knew it would be compulsory at the time or not) to do an RE subject for VCE.

[kyzoo]

That applies for some. I am conjecturing that schools such as Mt Scopus coerce you into doing Religion in VCE by their school rules. Probably Bialik does as well.

Mt Scopus owns Religion in terms of VCE scores lol

[jimmy999]

At my school it was compulsory to do Religion in year 11. Most people chose to do Units 1/2 of Religion and Society. But those who realised that we were forced to do decided to make it actually count so they chose either 3/4 Religion and Society or 3/4 Texts and Traditions. There was a fourth, copout option where people could've chosen Art/RE which apparently was a bludge. Good thing is RE wasn't compulsory in year 12