If you do super scaled languages, is the bonus on only one?

[wildareal]

If you do super scaled languages, is the bonus on only one? IE. French and Latin

[Gloamglozer]

If you do super scaled languages, is the bonus on only one? IE. French and Latin

You mean the government bonus?

That bonus is incorporated in the scaling so in effect, it is in both languages, I believe.

[arthurk]

government bonus?

[Gloamglozer]

government bonus?

It's an incentive from the government to get students to study a LOTE.

[akira88]

I haven't heard of this before... what is it exactly?

[vexx]

government bonus?

It's an incentive from the government to get students to study a LOTE.

isn't it just that all lotes are scaled by +5, then are scaled either more or less depending on strength of cohort. like french would be scaled score of +7 rather then +12 otherwise.

[EvangelionZeta]

It adds to all.  I can tell from experience with people who scored above 50 in several subjects.  =)

[stonecold]

they way it works is, is that all lotes get 5 points added on to the mean before they are scaled.
so a subject that has a mean of say 32, gets another 5 added to the mean, making it 37.  then it is scaled like normal, but because the mean is now quite high, the scaling is also very good.

in some cases where the mean is exceptionally high, the subject will scale above 50.

[kyzoo]

Seeing as though someone at my school got 99.95 from two 50+ scaled LOTE scores, I don't think so.

[m@tty]

Seeing as though someone at my school got 99.95 from two 50+ scaled LOTE scores, I don't think so.

That's just cheating Of course I only say this because I'm not doing it.

[slothpomba]

Haha i do agree the bonus is somewhat unfair for people not doing languages/ dont have a language background.

[Gloamglozer]

Haha i do agree the bonus is somewhat unfair for people not doing languages/ dont have a language background.

That's why it is an "incentive".  You do not have to do it.  For many languages, it requires a lot of time and dedication and because of this, I think the government wants to encourage students to pick up languages as part of their VCE program.  As you are aware, a few languages are starting to lose accreditation (ie. you can't do them in VCE any more) due to low enrolments.  And some have already lost accreditation in the last few years.

Therefore, I think in the end, it is "fair".  It just depends whether or not you want to take up the opportunity.

[akira88]

Haha i do agree the bonus is somewhat unfair for people not doing languages/ dont have a language background.

That's why it is an "incentive".  You do not have to do it.  For many languages, it requires a lot of time and dedication and because of this, I think the government wants to encourage students to pick up languages as part of their VCE program.  As you are aware, a few languages are starting to lose accreditation (ie. you can't do them in VCE any more) due to low enrolments.  And some have already lost accreditation in the last few years.

Therefore, I think in the end, it is "fair".  It just depends whether or not you want to take up the opportunity.

+1

[appianway]

I really think there should be a background speakers category like in the HSC for most LOTEs.

[sgeorge]

Therefore, I think in the end, it is "fair".  It just depends whether or not you want to take up the opportunity.

I agree that it is a reasonably fair system. However I must point out that it's not necessarily as simple as whether you want to take up the opportunity. I studied both french and italian from year 7 year 9 but had no knowledge of such incentives, so when I came to select subjects I neglected to continue with them. I did this as I believed I would be disadvantaged in a LOTE subject compared to say a commerce one.

Once I finally realised I would not be 'disadvantaged' as such, I had missed a year and a bit and had missed the chance to do a LOTE in vce.