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Phosphorous or phosphate
« on: February 17, 2010, 06:39:21 pm »
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Suppose you were in charge of an advertising campaign to promote the washing powder. Would you advertise the Percentage of phosphorous or phosphate in the product? Explain

The solutions dont give a good answer. Any one? :)
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 08:00:25 pm »
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Probably not Phosphorous, as, to me, it brings forth thoughts of Phosphorous grenades. Not the best cleaning solution :P
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 08:21:39 pm »
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You would advertise the percentage of phosphorus to make it seem lower due to phosphate having a higher mass, thus higher percentage, hence making the product seem like there is too much phosphorus for the good of the environment.

This is from heinemann isn't it?
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 08:33:16 pm »
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You would advertise the percentage of phosphorus to make it seem lower due to phosphate having a higher mass, thus higher percentage, hence making the product seem like there is too much phosphorus for the good of the environment.

This is from heinemann isn't it?

yep heinemann. my teacher mentioned something about centrifugation or somethign along those lines. She spoke so quickly i didnt get a chance to get the answer down
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2010, 08:34:17 pm »
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Oliver, I don't understand your answer O.o

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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2010, 08:42:10 pm »
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 ;) i think he is mentioning the percentage composition ...
like the percentage of phosphate would be relatively higher compare to phosphorus as an element in that washing powder
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 08:44:32 pm »
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Phosphate=
as opposed to
Phosphorous=
He is saying not to add the 4 oxygens(~) into the printed percentage.
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 08:48:33 pm »
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hm ..still dont see the advantage. isnt phosphorous like in a lot of stuff. like DNA and cell membranes etc so that would be helpful in selling.
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2010, 08:50:00 pm »
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matty!!~~~ phosphate has 4 oxygen atoms   ;D
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 08:51:47 pm »
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hm ..still dont see the advantage. isnt phosphorous like in a lot of stuff. like DNA and cell membranes etc so that would be helpful in selling.
phosphorus is just an single element that has 30.97 molar mass...
i am not sure if there is another phosphorus ... lol..   :2funny:
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 08:52:06 pm »
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Doesn't ? ? ? ... fail... :buck2:
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 08:57:52 pm »
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ohhhhh matty !!!~~
where have you been?
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 08:58:37 pm »
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Doesn't ? ? ? ... fail... :buck2:

id say use a calc :P
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2010, 09:01:28 pm »
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i still need an answer :(. damnnn this stupid question.
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Re: Phosphorous or phosphate
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 09:09:21 pm »
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hey.. studying hard .. .what does the anwer say
i was researching and foound "Due to its high reactivity, phosphorus is never found as a free element in nature on Earth"
so therefore it contradicts what the above have said . .
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also (Phosphorus compounds are also widely used in explosives, nerve agents, friction matches, fireworks, pesticides)
not sure if this helps ... but then as everyone said.. showing the percentage of phosphorus would be way lower compare to showing the percentage of phosphate ....
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