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RE: max/min of trig
« on: February 22, 2010, 04:46:08 pm »
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This is annoying me. Trying to help a friend out but can't see what's wrong with this line of reasoning.

Find the max/min of

1) Isolate the terms

2) Consider max and min points. They are 1,2,6 for max, similarly 0, -2 and 6 for min.

3) Sum of max values give max, similarly with min.

Hence Max = 9, Min = 4

But its obviously the min = 5. Whats wrong?
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Re: RE: max/min of trig
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 05:31:52 pm »
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Err...remember that the in is equal to the in . The that would yield the lowest value for is obviously . So substituting in, we get the values 1 - 2 + 6 = 5.
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Re: RE: max/min of trig
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 05:47:25 pm »
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oh ok. I just diffed and went from there. Of course, it flew over her head.
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Re: RE: max/min of trig
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 07:26:35 pm »
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Mmm you can do this without differentiation.

First complete the square











Thus the maximum is 9, and the minimum is 4
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Re: RE: max/min of trig
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 07:33:57 pm »
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cannot equal to .

. For , which is impossible.



Reconsider last step.

, not 4.
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Re: RE: max/min of trig
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 09:49:15 pm »
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Kyzoo is correct brightsky, he is just mortal and made the mistake that 0+5 = 4. We do that as mathematicians. I have made it a habit of mine to call 2-1 = 21. It happens.
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Re: RE: max/min of trig
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010, 10:04:33 pm »
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Kyzoo is correct brightsky, he is just mortal and made the mistake that 0+5 = 4. We do that as mathematicians. I have made it a habit of mine to call 2-1 = 21. It happens.

lululz, sorry, I didn't mean for any offence.
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Re: RE: max/min of trig
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 04:23:17 pm »
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:) haha its all good.
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