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Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« on: March 24, 2010, 11:49:38 pm »
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Hey, I go to an average school with just a few 'smart' students (maybe around 10 out of 150 students?)

What are the disadvantages and advantages of a cohort such as this?

Do I need to get rank #1's in order to get a high score?

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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 11:50:53 pm »
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Yeah, but it still pretty much works out fair so your not too disadvantaged.
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 04:41:28 pm »
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I don't think many would know the real answer to this. Most could only give you logical guesses how VCAA does it is not known to public.

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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 05:36:48 pm »
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It's only gonna weigh you down if you let it (i.e. just beat your friends or drop to their level)

If you are rank #1 and blitz the exam you have nothing to worry about. The problem with a weak cohort is it lulls you into a false sense of smartness, you can be rank #1 in your school and think you are top shit but then get owned by the exam. Just set the bar to where you are comfortable and work towards that
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 05:41:15 pm »
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I read from watchman somewhere that a weak cohort "weighs you down"
how does this work?

Well if your cohort does worse in the exam in comparison to other cohorts, then their SAC marks will be 'moderated' higher, and the opposite to yours.
The way to overcome this is to: (a) Do well in SACs and try to be rank 1; (b) Ace the exam, so you won't be 'moderated' so much :)

But you'd be wanting to do that anyway...
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 05:56:54 pm »
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It's only gonna weigh you down if you let it (i.e. just beat your friends or drop to their level)

If you are rank #1 and blitz the exam you have nothing to worry about. The problem with a weak cohort is it lulls you into a false sense of smartness, you can be rank #1 in your school and think you are top shit but then get owned by the exam. Just set the bar to where you are comfortable and work towards that
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 06:22:18 pm »
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I read from watchman somewhere that a weak cohort "weighs you down"
how does this work?

Well if your cohort does worse in the exam in comparison to other cohorts, then their SAC marks will be 'moderated' higher, and the opposite to yours.
The way to overcome this is to: (a) Do well in SACs and try to be rank 1; (b) Ace the exam, so you won't be 'moderated' so much :)

But you'd be wanting to do that anyway...

So what if you don't get rank 1 for SAC's. Does this effect your chances at an awsome score??
Either way you need to ace the exam right??
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 06:23:54 pm »
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I read from watchman somewhere that a weak cohort "weighs you down"
how does this work?

Well if your cohort does worse in the exam in comparison to other cohorts, then their SAC marks will be 'moderated' higher, and the opposite to yours.
The way to overcome this is to: (a) Do well in SACs and try to be rank 1; (b) Ace the exam, so you won't be 'moderated' so much :)

But you'd be wanting to do that anyway...

So what if you don't get rank 1 for SAC's. Does this effect your chances at an awsome score??
Either way you need to ace the exam right??

It doesn't have a huge effect, and in no way does it mean you can't do well.
But yes, everything comes down to the final exam :)
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2010, 06:29:01 pm »
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simple terms from our teacher: 
if you guys do bad on the SACS but overall in the exam the whole classs does good the examiners assume the teacher marks too hard and brings the whole of the cohorts SAC scores by atleast a whole grade.
you just have to do better on exams than on sacs for the whole cohort to go up kinda :P
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2010, 09:51:06 pm »
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Yup, it's only a disadvantage if you mess up on a piece of assessment. As in, you performed way worse than what you should have.

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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 11:58:59 am »
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Yup, it's only a disadvantage if you mess up on a piece of assessment. As in, you performed way worse than what you should have.

Though, I've heard that if you perform really poorly in the SACs for one of your subjects (so rank last in a weak cohort), and you do really well in the exams for that subject as well as other exams for your other subjects and your SACs marks for them were consistently high, then assesors ignore this one poor SAC mark. Is this true? In what rare situations would a poor SAC mark be ignored?

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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 04:11:41 pm »
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How would they know what the one SAC is?

I mean, schools submit your total SAC mark. So if you had a SAC marked out of 20, scored 10, but had 100s for everything else, assessors aren't going to care about a 90/100.

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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 04:31:38 pm »
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I mean, schools submit your total SAC mark.

I think they just send your rank within the cohort. No actual mark is sent in. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 04:39:39 pm »
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I mean, schools submit your total SAC mark.

I think they just send your rank within the cohort. No actual mark is sent in. Can anyone confirm this?

I thought someone said somewhere here that the mark is sent in, but I'm not sure, I've heard both
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Re: Disadvantages of a weak cohort?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 04:49:41 pm »
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I thought they sent in the mark to get the spacing between students right.