Find out how many people YOU beat in the state in your subjects?

[luken93]

While I was bored and with the help of vexx, I have converted the placement among the state to the number of people in the state.
Feel free to comment, or if you would like me to add more Subjects let me know

I know that there are a few inconsistencies (ie. SS 1-5), but I don't anticipate that anyone on VN will be under 10 haha

I've also attached the excel version if you are interested.

Thanks
Luke

I used Mean=30
STDEV=7

And for the number of students:
VCAA 2009 Statistics

***NOTE*** - This is purely statistical, as m@tty pointed out these aren't the real figures for reasons given below, it should only be used as a guide/bragging rights to parents/friends haha

Study Score  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  18  19  20  21  22  23  24  25  26  27  28  29  30  31  32  33  34  35  36  37  38  39  40  41  42  43  44  45  46  47  48  49  50

% of students above the SS             99.8285% 99.8274% 99.8255% 99.8221% 99.8162% 99.8065% 99.7903% 99.7643% 99.7232% 99.6595% 99.5627% 99.4187% 99.2088% 98.9089% 98.4893% 97.9138% 97.1405% 96.1225% 94.8091% 93.1490% 91.0929% 88.5978% 85.6309% 82.1742% 78.2280% 73.8139% 68.9760% 63.7805% 58.3135% 52.6769% 46.9826% 41.3459% 35.8790% 30.6835% 25.8456% 21.4315% 17.4853% 14.0286% 11.0617% 8.5665% 6.5105% 4.8504% 3.5370% 2.5189% 1.7457% 1.1702% 0.7505% 0.4507% 0.2408% 0.0968%

No. of students above this SS in: Total Number of People In Subject:

English     42624 42551 42550 42550 42548 42546 42542 42535 42524 42506 42479 42438 42376 42287 42159 41980 41735 41405 40971 40411 39704 38827 37764 36499 35026 33344 31462 29400 27186 24856 22453 20026 17623 15293 13079 11016 9135 7453 5980 4715 3651 2775 2067 1508 1074 744 499 320 192 103 41

Chemistry     8863 8848 8848 8848 8847 8847 8846 8844 8842 8838 8833 8824 8811 8793 8766 8729 8678 8610 8519 8403 8256 8074 7852 7589 7283 6933 6542 6113 5653 5168 4669 4164 3664 3180 2719 2291 1899 1550 1243 980 759 577 430 313 223 155 104 67 40 21 9

Physics     7004 6992 6992 6992 6992 6991 6990 6989 6987 6985 6980 6973 6963 6949 6928 6898 6858 6804 6732 6640 6524 6380 6205 5998 5755 5479 5170 4831 4467 4084 3689 3291 2896 2513 2149 1810 1501 1225 983 775 600 456 340 248 176 122 82 53 32 17 7

Methods CAS     7189 7177 7177 7176 7176 7176 7175 7174 7172 7169 7165 7158 7147 7132 7111 7080 7039 6983 6910 6816 6696 6549 6369 6156 5908 5624 5306 4959 4585 4192 3787 3378 2972 2579 2206 1858 1541 1257 1009 795 616 468 349 254 181 125 84 54 32 17 7

Specialist     4782 4774 4774 4774 4773 4773 4773 4772 4771 4769 4766 4761 4754 4744 4730 4710 4682 4645 4597 4534 4454 4356 4237 4095 3930 3741 3530 3298 3050 2789 2519 2247 1977 1716 1467 1236 1025 836 671 529 410 311 232 169 120 83 56 36 22 12 5

Business Management     12614 12592 12592 12592 12592 12591 12590 12588 12584 12579 12571 12559 12541 12514 12476 12423 12351 12253 12125 11959 11750 11490 11176 10801 10365 9868 9311 8701 8045 7356 6645 5926 5215 4526 3870 3260 2703 2206 1770 1395 1081 821 612 446 318 220 148 95 57 30 12

Accounting      6625 6614 6614 6613 6613 6613 6612 6611 6609 6607 6602 6596 6586 6573 6553 6525 6487 6436 6368 6281 6171 6035 5870 5673 5444 5183 4890 4570 4225 3863 3490 3113 2739 2377 2033 1712 1420 1158 929 733 568 431 321 234 167 116 78 50 30 16 6

Biology     10906 10887 10887 10887 10887 10886 10885 10883 10880 10876 10869 10858 10843 10820 10787 10741 10678 10594 10483 10340 10159 9935 9662 9339 8962 8532 8050 7523 6956 6360 5745 5124 4509 3913 3346 2819 2337 1907 1530 1206 934 710 529 386 275 190 128 82 49 26 11

[m@tty]

Not to try and ruin your thing, buut check this out. It appears your numbers are way off... :|

Just one example: Your table says that there are 41 50's in English, where in reality there are closer to 100...

[jimmy999]

Not to try and ruin your thing, buut check this out. It appears your numbers are way off... :|

Just one example: Your table says that there are 41 50's in English, where in reality there are closer to 100...

Statistically speaking there should only be 41 50s in English because that's how the bell curve is meant to work. However if 100 people get full marks on all assessments, then you'd have to give a 50 to all those people as you wouldn't be able to distinguish them. Pretty much scores above 45 are hard to get accurate

[kyzoo]

Statistically speaking there should only be 41 50s in English because that's how the bell curve is meant to work. However if 100 people get full marks on all assessments, then you'd have to give a 50 to all those people as you wouldn't be able to distinguish them. Pretty much scores above 45 are hard to get accurate

I'm pretty sure you don't need to get full marks on all assessments to get a 50 in English.

[luken93]

Not to try and ruin your thing, buut check this out. It appears your numbers are way off... :|

Just one example: Your table says that there are 41 50's in English, where in reality there are closer to 100...

haha thats ok, was doing it the way jimmy said.
If I were REALLY bored I could go through every subject, but reading my book for English has the upper hand at the moment haha

Statistically speaking there should only be 41 50s in English because that's how the bell curve is meant to work. However if 100 people get full marks on all assessments, then you'd have to give a 50 to all those people as you wouldn't be able to distinguish them. Pretty much scores above 45 are hard to get accurate

I'm pretty sure you don't need to get full marks on all assessments to get a 50 in English.

And surely in that top 100 or so who get a 50, surely you could differentiate 41 of them being better than the rest, although I've never seen any 50er's English exam, maybe I could be the first one I read hahahahahahah

That is never going to happen

Honestly do you have to be naturally talented to get 45+ in English. Even if I wrote 1 essay per week next year, I still don't think I could get 45+.

I know that a wide vocab definately helps, but it is essential that you use "big" words to do well in English

Or is it just answering all the right questions that should be answered in your essay?

Jimmy you are probably a good example of this, obviously by your marks you are an exceptionally talented kid, so why do you believe that you only got 35 compare to your other subjects (I don't mean to be harsh if it sounds like it, just a matter of opinion)

Thanks

[kyzoo]

I know that a wide vocab definately helps, but it is essential that you use "big" words to do well in English

It's more the apt usage of vocab rather than using big words. I can guarantee you that if you try to be bombastic at every opportunity in your piece, it will be worse than if you had written it in your natural style.

[the.watchman]

I know that a wide vocab definately helps, but it is essential that you use "big" words to do well in English

It's more the apt usage of vocab rather than using big words. I can guarantee you that if you try to be bombastic at every opportunity in your piece, it will be worse than if you had written it in your natural style.

I definitely agree on this one, it's all about the flow of the essay, if you can write it using sophisticated expression, but it sounds like it came straight out of the thesaurus, then you will be marked harshly.

[brightsky]

Honestly do you have to be naturally talented to get 45+ in English. Even if I wrote 1 essay per week next year, I still don't think I could get 45+.

I don't think merely churning out heaps of essays would improve your English.

[stonecold]

^ not big words, just appropriate words.  good exploration of themes, characterisation, stage directions, symbolism etc.
actually answering the essay topic in full is important, as many people try to alter their memorised essays so they will fit the question, which usually doesn't work.  also sometimes people will only answer part of the question.

and probably ~1000 words per piece as well.   fact is not matter how good you can write something in 600-700 words, there will always be others who can write a piece that is just as clear, succinct and concise as yours in 1000+ words.

i've personally got no idea how i'm going to manage 20 words/min, but i guess i'll just have to learn

[kyzoo]

Honestly do you have to be naturally talented to get 45+ in English. Even if I wrote 1 essay per week next year, I still don't think I could get 45+.

I don't think merely churning out heaps of essays would improve your English.

1 essay a week is hardly churning out heaps of essays

[stonecold]

yeah, 1 per week is probably a realistic goal for me.

[GerrySly]

Honestly do you have to be naturally talented to get 45+ in English. Even if I wrote 1 essay per week next year, I still don't think I could get 45+.

I don't think merely churning out heaps of essays would improve your English.

If you get them corrected and maybe go through each one you could definitely improve massively.

Like 3-4 essays a week (Monday - Essay, Tuesday - Correction, Wednesday - Essay, Thursday - Correction, Friday - Essay, Saturday - Rest, Sunday - Rest)

[Albeno69]

Honestly do you have to be naturally talented to get 45+ in English. Even if I wrote 1 essay per week next year, I still don't think I could get 45+.

I don't think merely churning out heaps of essays would improve your English.

If you get them corrected and maybe go through each one you could definitely improve massively.

Like 3-4 essays a week (Monday - Essay, Tuesday - Correction, Wednesday - Essay, Thursday - Correction, Friday - Essay, Saturday - Rest, Sunday - Rest)

yea i said to my self im going to do something like this chun our few essays a week and get them corrected but after a month i gave up. lack of motivation to keep it up.

[luken93]

^ Thanks for all the comments

I meant that if you naturally had a wider vocab, it definately helps the flow of the essay, as opposed to writing the same things with very limited words.

So what do you think can improve you to get 40+ in English.

I spose its hard to guess as to what you would get, but since my school had 7 out of 300 kids got 40+ in English, I'm hopeful for a 35.

So what would I need to do to improve from say a 35 to a 40, I've heard a lot of "get it corrected by your teacher", but I'm seriously questioning as to how quick they would correct it

[AzureBlue]

What kind of topics do they give for English Language essays?