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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2010, 10:53:08 pm »
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you got a prize tho last year didnt you?
and how did you do 2, 3, 4 with proper answers?
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2010, 10:56:21 pm »
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2 - Prove that only one possible arrangement fits the conditions, and that any other arrangement is invalid
3 - If you solve the question, then you already have the proof
4 - Prove that any number whose digits sum up to a multiple of 9, will be divisible by 9.
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2010, 11:36:33 pm »
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you got a prize tho last year didnt you?
and how did you do 2, 3, 4 with proper answers?
Q2 is a basic combinatorics question, i personally wouldn't do a proof, i'd maybe try a combinatorial argument to create an isomorphism which would most likely solve it.
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« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2010, 11:47:51 pm »
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you got a prize tho last year didnt you?
and how did you do 2, 3, 4 with proper answers?
Q2 is a basic combinatorics question, i personally wouldn't do a proof, i'd maybe try a combinatorial argument to create an isomorphism which would most likely solve it.

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LOL what's a "combinatorial argument" and what's an "isomorphism"
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2010, 11:56:16 pm »
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an isomorphism is like a bijection, it is basically 2 things which are basically the same question but just worded differently. i used the word very casually here -_- perhaps i shud have said bijection but anyways it was pretty informal

the one i've always remembered when i learnt combinatorial arguments is this example:

prove the summation identity

for

one could do a algebraic 'proof' but one can also avoid the use of any rigorous/formal maths and simply try an "combinatorial argument" like this:

say n = 17 and r = 10 then we have:



now my combinatorial argument will be like this:

Let us consider all 11 member committees formed from a group of 18 people, fix one of the 18 people, say some one called E. The 11 member committees can be broken down into two mutually exclusive types: those with Eand those without. How many include E? Having already chosen E, we are free to chose 10 more people from the remaining pool of 17, so we got: committees that include E. To count the committees without E, we must choose 11 people, but again out of 17, since we need to remove E from the original pool of 18. so this means committees exclude E. The total number of 11 member committees is the sum of the number of committees with Erika plus the number without Erika, which is , but this is just the total of the 2 mutually exclusive cases which proves the inequality for this specific case.

Then just replace 17 with n and 10 with r and do the same combinatorial argument thus "proving" the equality.



can u see how a combinatorial argument is like a "story" which basically requires a bit of wishful thinking to create ur OWN problem which yields the result, rather than using known identities to prove the result.

for example, create a combinatorial argument for 7 x 8 = 56

what does it mean? well it could mean that there are 7 choices of pasta and 8 choices of pizza so there are 56 ways of choosing a pasta dinner with pizza.



other types of isomorphisms or "bijections" could be like generating functions and combinatorics

you could have a very complex combinatorics questions but simply represent it with an expression like (1+x^2+x^4+...)(1+x^3+x^5+...) or something whose indices could represent different combinations.



another type of basic isomorphic relationship could be in basic linear algebra, where you can view a matrix using different methods such as using the column picture of a matrix or a row picture, both yield different equations but when solved, they represent the exact same thing.
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2010, 07:08:32 am »
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What are the prizes anyway, is it purely on the top 10/20/30 etc or is it the amount of marks?
Also, do you get a certificate of partic, credit, distinc etc?
Only 2 kids did it at our school, but dont wanna accept a "participation" award at assembly ahaha
Nope, there's first three places, then about top 10-15 get outstanding award, then the next 15 get cert of merit. Rest get participation I think (which is around the other thousand people).

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« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2010, 08:08:05 am »
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What are the prizes anyway, is it purely on the top 10/20/30 etc or is it the amount of marks?
Also, do you get a certificate of partic, credit, distinc etc?
Only 2 kids did it at our school, but dont wanna accept a "participation" award at assembly ahaha
Nope, there's first three places, then about top 10-15 get outstanding award, then the next 15 get cert of merit. Rest get participation I think (which is around the other thousand people).

So what sort of score do you reckon is needed to get a merit certificate?
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2010, 01:48:20 pm »
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What are the prizes anyway, is it purely on the top 10/20/30 etc or is it the amount of marks?
Also, do you get a certificate of partic, credit, distinc etc?
Only 2 kids did it at our school, but dont wanna accept a "participation" award at assembly ahaha
Nope, there's first three places, then about top 10-15 get outstanding award, then the next 15 get cert of merit. Rest get participation I think (which is around the other thousand people).
So what sort of score do you reckon is needed to get a merit certificate?
Don't know, I've personally never gotten one before (I either get outstanding or nothing). I reckon that it's about 2.5-3 questions though. Depends on the difficulty of the paper.

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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2010, 01:50:02 pm »
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What are the prizes anyway, is it purely on the top 10/20/30 etc or is it the amount of marks?
Also, do you get a certificate of partic, credit, distinc etc?
Only 2 kids did it at our school, but dont wanna accept a "participation" award at assembly ahaha
Nope, there's first three places, then about top 10-15 get outstanding award, then the next 15 get cert of merit. Rest get participation I think (which is around the other thousand people).
So what sort of score do you reckon is needed to get a merit certificate?
Don't know, I've personally never gotten one before (I either get outstanding or nothing). I reckon that it's about 2.5-3 questions though. Depends on the difficulty of the paper.

I see, thanks!
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2010, 01:54:15 pm »
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Yesterday night, I attempted the questions again (without any help except a hint in one of the questions). I solved all of them. GRRRRR. :( I guess I have to work more carefully and faster next time.

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« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2010, 01:55:53 pm »
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Yesterday night, I attempted the questions again (without any help except a hint in one of the questions). I solved all of them. GRRRRR. :( I guess I have to work more carefully and faster next time.

Lol, good job! :)
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2010, 07:36:25 pm »
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SOLUTIONS ARE OUT
and i dont think id even get 10 marks :(
anyway, here's the link
http://www.mathscomp.ms.unimelb.edu.au/archive/2010SS.pdf
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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2010, 08:50:21 pm »
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SOLUTIONS ARE OUT
and i dont think id even get 10 marks :(
anyway, here's the link
http://www.mathscomp.ms.unimelb.edu.au/archive/2010SS.pdf
apart from the intermediate section for some reason... :P

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Re: MUMC 2010!
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2010, 10:35:28 pm »
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Has anyone received their results yet? It says end of July schools will be notified, but I haven't heard anything yet?
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