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What if....
« on: May 14, 2010, 04:51:05 pm »
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a teacher hates you, but you do very well on the exams. will VCAA boost up your SS, or will you just get the n-th ranking SAC mark the teacher gave u?

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 04:56:33 pm »
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Your study score isn't solely determined by your SACs. If you have an average SAC ranking and ace the exam, you will still get a good study score.
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Re: What if....
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 04:59:20 pm »
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Your study score isn't solely determined by your SACs. If you have an average SAC ranking and ace the exam, you will still get a good study score.

i know it isnt purely determined by SACS... but say a teacher hates you but you ace your exam. you could have got 45 but instead u get 40 because the teacher hates you and gave u a shit ranking

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2010, 05:06:42 pm »
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I wonder this too...Does the moderation take in account those factors or basically they keep your rank, for your SACs, the low score remains and a high examination mark is used to determine the SS? (assuming the person is high achieving, performing very well on exams)

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 05:08:27 pm »
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I doubt that your study score will differ that much. Even if your teacher hates you, there are limited grounds in which she can be biased. For maths/science, a right answer is a right answer. Yes, she may take marks off for the most trivial "errors", but this won't affect your mark all that much, and would definitely not result in your study score dropping from 45 to 40 (hypothetically). In English, though it is somewhat more subjective than other subjects, there is a distinction between a good essay and a bad essay, and the teacher can't disciminate against you all that much (e.g. giving a clear 10/10 essay a 6/10 or something).

Overall, just do your best in your SACs and exams. If you have the potential, these influences won't, ultimately, be able to tie you down.

Also, on another note, rankings are relatively trivial. As attested in many cases throughout this forum, some students that aren't in the 1st and 2nd SAC rankings in their school still can get really, really, really good study scores.
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 05:12:17 pm »
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I wonder this too...Does the moderation take in account those factors or basically they keep your rank, for your SACs, the low score remains and a high examination mark is used to determine the SS? (assuming the person is high achieving, performing very well on exams)

I wouldn't think so. Moderation is, I think, purely based on the cohort, and doesn't consider such individual issues. The VCE having SACs in the first place is quite controversial. Some students are allowed to take home their SACs and do them, while others must do them in exam pressure. Some high-achieving students are disadvantaged to some extent with all this moderation business.
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Re: What if....
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 05:48:41 pm »
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You could tell this to your principal or co-ordinators and they can have your SAC's remarked by a different teacher of the same subject too.
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Re: What if....
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 09:17:31 pm »
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Why do so many people feel as though their teacher has a vendetta against them?

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 09:38:16 pm »
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Why do so many people feel as though their teacher has a vendetta against them?
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2010, 11:25:13 pm »
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What if my school has 2 or more english teachers and one of them corrects very easily(giving crap students an A+ even if they dont deserve this) and one is harsh. Will this affect the SACS or exams or study scores?

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2010, 08:50:57 pm »
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What if my school has 2 or more english teachers and one of them corrects very easily(giving crap students an A+ even if they dont deserve this) and one is harsh. Will this affect the SACS or exams or study scores?

If they don't cross mark, you should change to the class that gets A+s easily :)

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2010, 08:57:15 pm »
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What if my school has 2 or more english teachers and one of them corrects very easily(giving crap students an A+ even if they dont deserve this) and one is harsh. Will this affect the SACS or exams or study scores?

Yes, no, yes. Moderation only works when marking is uniform across the cohort.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2010, 09:06:59 pm »
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If your school doesn't cross mark what can be done about it?  I know my English teacher doesn't do it.  God I hate her.

Can they get in shit from VCAA?
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2010, 10:14:40 pm »
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I planned for this back in year 7. Year's 7-11 were spent sucking up to teachers and getting on their good sides ;D
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Re: What if....
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2010, 10:30:44 pm »
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If your school doesn't cross mark what can be done about it?  I know my English teacher doesn't do it.  God I hate her.

Can they get in shit from VCAA?
I don't think much, if anything, can be done about it. Last year all of our 100+ SACs were first looked over by our teachers, then graded by an external marker, but obviously not every school is going to go to that extent to ensure fairness.