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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2010, 04:46:47 pm »
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I've thought about this.

Just get a pilot friction ball pen (or equivalent). It is a pen you can rub out like a pencil. And you can use the rubber indefinitely.
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2010, 04:56:53 pm »
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I wrote my practise SAC in one of those pens for English, and my teacher tried to photocopy it so I could show it to my tutor, and it wouldn't copy clear at all. :(

I've thought about using them, but I'm scared that it wont copy.  Then again, I suppose I am using pen, so it's not my fault haha.  They would have to go and check my paper manually...

I had one and gave it away.  I guess i'll go buy a couple of them on Thursday...
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2010, 05:02:59 pm »
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Ahh see this is what I was thinking as well. It's their problem, not ours.
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2010, 05:06:01 pm »
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^haha, we are going to ruin everything for VCE 11'ers.  VCAA will make them use gay ass BIC pens next year... :P
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2010, 05:16:42 pm »
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I wouldn't risk it though...by any chance its just a crappy scanner?

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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2010, 06:13:58 pm »
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It's not like they'll THROW your exam out if they can't read it LOL...
Probs just mark it by hand anyway..

Who knows though Andrew?
Most logically, yes your right. But then again, when past students circled all their answers on the multiple choice section
of the exam paper, and didn't circle you answers on that actual sheet, in the past they'd get a BIG ZERO.

Not worth the "risk" at all.
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2010, 06:20:46 pm »
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Haha yes, that settles it.  I'm using pencil :P
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2010, 06:28:59 pm »
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It's not like they'll THROW your exam out if they can't read it LOL...
Probs just mark it by hand anyway..

No, they'll just scan it. And if they can't read that then the next move is theirs. They have no requirement to fetch your exam and mark it separately. I don't know how far they can even take marking by hand either. How would they decide which exams are worth looking into? It would cause a lot of unnecessary extra work. Many people will leave many questions blank, so if the examiners try and check up on everybody possibly mis-scanned paper there is a lot of double handling. Also, if some student's papers are marked by hand, what of students who think they may have been disadvantaged by the online marking. They could argue that they were discriminated against because their paper was not sighted by an examiner. Where can VCAA draw the line?
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2010, 07:22:59 pm »
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this thread can be closed now :P
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2010, 07:54:03 pm »
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It's not like they'll THROW your exam out if they can't read it LOL...
Probs just mark it by hand anyway..

No, they'll just scan it. And if they can't read that then the next move is theirs. They have no requirement to fetch your exam and mark it separately. I don't know how far they can even take marking by hand either. How would they decide which exams are worth looking into? It would cause a lot of unnecessary extra work. Many people will leave many questions blank, so if the examiners try and check up on everybody possibly mis-scanned paper there is a lot of double handling. Also, if some student's papers are marked by hand, what of students who think they may have been disadvantaged by the online marking. They could argue that they were discriminated against because their paper was not sighted by an examiner. Where can VCAA draw the line?

pfft, people will argue anything to get extra marks. Obviously there will be some who in any subject will have to be done by hand because of AWFUL handwriting and such. Arguing discrimination? wow. I agree with Stonecold.

this thread can be closed now :P
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2010, 07:58:12 pm »
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It's not like they'll THROW your exam out if they can't read it LOL...
Probs just mark it by hand anyway..

No, they'll just scan it. And if they can't read that then the next move is theirs. They have no requirement to fetch your exam and mark it separately. I don't know how far they can even take marking by hand either. How would they decide which exams are worth looking into? It would cause a lot of unnecessary extra work. Many people will leave many questions blank, so if the examiners try and check up on everybody possibly mis-scanned paper there is a lot of double handling. Also, if some student's papers are marked by hand, what of students who think they may have been disadvantaged by the online marking. They could argue that they were discriminated against because their paper was not sighted by an examiner. Where can VCAA draw the line?

The cover this year says section B use pen or pencil..
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/June_2010_covers/2010chem1-cover.pdf


I have known that from the start..

It doesn't change anything about the potential for pencil scanning badly.

And...

Quote from: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/exams/examcovers/2010examindex.html
Sutdents should only write in blue or black pen.

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Everything still stands. Unchanged.

Pencil can still smudge or be badly scanned...

Do what you want. Remember though that they have advised you write in nothing other than blue or black pen.

EDIT: @Martoman All I meant was that it was unlikely that exams will be hand-marked because they were written in pencil.
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2010, 08:00:06 pm »
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I still stand by my claim that people should just be more confident in themselves.
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2010, 08:12:49 pm »
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I still stand by my claim that people should just be more confident in themselves.

your posts are so compelling
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2010, 09:53:38 pm »
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I still stand by my claim that people should just be more confident in themselves.

your posts are so compelling

I can't tell if sarcastic or not :S??

haha it really isn't
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Re: pen on exam??
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2010, 10:00:44 pm »
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I still stand by my claim that people should just be more confident in themselves.

your posts are so compelling

I can't tell if sarcastic or not :S??

haha it really isn't

Agreed. People are asking and arguing over the most trivial things in exam time =S It's not like the rest of us check VCAA's official answers to things; we're just using our common sense and telling it back to you guys. Instead, just use your's and trust it. The world gets far more ambiguous than VCE does.
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