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Semseter One revision/questions thread
« on: June 02, 2010, 10:22:26 am »
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if then find the and
I applied and got for both, but how do i know which one is negative?
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 11:41:15 am »
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From the information:

OR

Because cos is positive in the first and fourth quadrants

However, it can also be said that:

OR (3rd and 4th quadrants)

So the common solution (same quadrant) for Arg(u) is

Try the same sort of idea for :)
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 08:59:27 am »
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how do you determine the cube root of -1, and the 5th root of 32 using "Cis"
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 10:12:15 am »
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Let

So , where

Remember, if you add 2pi, it becomes the same thing, but when divided by three, it is different :o (there are three solutions because it is a cube root - choose values of k up or down from 0)



From de Moivre's theorem:


For your second question, try the same process but note that k must be assigned to five values :)
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 10:53:57 am »
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the answer was

why is K = -1, 0, 1?
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 10:37:41 pm »
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No. The answer is therfore -1, cis(pi/3), cis(5pi/3)

http://stuff.daniel15.com/cgi-bin/mathtex.cgi?z=-cis(-%5Cfrac%7B2%5Cpi%7D%7B3%7D),-cis(0),-cis(%5Cfrac%7B2%5Cpi%7D%7B3%7D)

if you draw those angles on a graph, calculate it from the other side and thus will get you the right angles (:


Q. for the.watchman

If P(z) is a cubic polynominal with real coefficients and z-1-i is a linear factor then which one of the following could be a solution?

I immeadiately thought the answer was -1+i but the answer says 3

Why is that so?

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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 11:16:35 pm »
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how about the 5th root 32, over C?
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 09:22:33 am »
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No. The answer is therfore -1, cis(pi/3), cis(5pi/3)

http://stuff.daniel15.com/cgi-bin/mathtex.cgi?z=-cis(-%5Cfrac%7B2%5Cpi%7D%7B3%7D),-cis(0),-cis(%5Cfrac%7B2%5Cpi%7D%7B3%7D)

if you draw those angles on a graph, calculate it from the other side and thus will get you the right angles (:


Q. for the.watchman

If P(z) is a cubic polynominal with real coefficients and z-1-i is a linear factor then which one of the following could be a solution?

I immeadiately thought the answer was -1+i but the answer says 3

Why is that so?

Well, I don't know what the options are, but your answer isn't quite right

From the given factor, (z-1-i), you can see that a solution is z=1+i
The conjugate solution (it says solution in the question, not factor) is therefore z=1-i

Could you please give me the options for answers? Thanks :)

how about the 5th root 32, over C?

Now that I've fixed up my earlier answer, why don't you give it another try :)

Basically, there are three unique solutions for the roots (there are many many more, but they are just repeats of the previous ones - they repeat every 2pi cycle)
You would want to choose values of k that give final answers in as is convention, so these are usually around 0.

For example, if you want a cube root, choose the three integers around 0 (eg. k=-1,0,1)
Or for a fifth root, these are -2,-1,0,1,2

Apologies for the poor explanations :(
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 03:26:30 pm »
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so if it it was the cube root of 8 then k=-2,0,2?
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 03:37:03 pm »
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so if it it was the cube root of 8 then k=-2,0,2?

Nono, for any cube root, use -1,0,1
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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 08:44:25 pm »
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I've got a question.

How do you find a unit vector perpendicular to -4i+2j+k ?

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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 09:01:30 pm »
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Let the vector be ai+bj+ck. Take the dot product, let it equal zero and find solutions for the coefficients.

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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2010, 09:52:02 pm »
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if you take the dot product you get -4a+2b+c=0

how do you work out the coeff from that?

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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 09:56:18 pm »
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You can choose to let one of the coefficients be zero, and then let another coefficient equal one for simplicity. Divide by its modulus to get a unit vector.

So for instance (0,1,-2)/sqrt[5], (1,2,0)/sqrt[5] or (1,0,4)/sqrt[15] are all acceptable choices.

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Re: Semseter One revision/questions thread
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2010, 07:03:57 pm »
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because it is perpendicular so no matter the dot product, when multiplied by cos the result is 0 and hence perpendicular. however, how do you determine the value of because in this case we are only given one vector
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