CSP bonded for Med

[iffets12345]

I know the difference between normal MBBS and CSP Bonded, but I am wondering WHY do people choose CSP bonded?
Is it because you have a high chance of entry? I checked the enrolments and there are less CSP bonded places than normal MBBS...
so I am unsure of what is the point of applying. And should I put CSP bonded as my first preference instead of MBBS? I don't really understand which one gives me a higher chance and what is the point of the other.

[shinny]

Well obviously bonded can only be a bad thing given that it has everything unbonded CSP does, but with the bonded restrictions. Therefore, there will be less demand, hence it will be easier to get in. Even though there's less spots, everyone that will have bonded CSP will have unbonded CSP before it (if they actually know what they're doing). So really, it acts almost as a 2nd round offer for those who put it down.

[Toothpaste]

I know the difference between normal MBBS and CSP Bonded, but I am wondering WHY do people choose CSP bonded?

It's because some people don't mind being bonded with the conditions (It's still CSP but you sign a contract with the government, work in an area of your specialisation's shortage for a number of years - I think it was six) and would take it so they can study medicine.

It's not about chance when you do your preferences - it's a list of what you want ranked from 1 to 12. You're not ranking them by chance of getting in or ENTER/ATAR scores but usually most people's preferences turn out that way anyway (only because more popular courses are put at the top anyway and it's supply/demand talking again). If you want want medicine unbonded then put that as number 1. If you would accept a bonded place when you don't happen to get an unbonded place then put bonded medicine as 2.

Is it because you have a high chance of entry? I checked the enrolments and there are less CSP bonded places than normal MBBS...

The government requires the university to have spots set aside just for bonded CSP. There is an actually percentage of spots required to be made bonded, which is why there's less spots for bonded compared to unbonded. Not everyone likes the conditions anyway.

so I am unsure of what is the point of applying. And should I put CSP bonded as my first preference instead of MBBS? I don't really understand which one gives me a higher chance and what is the point of the other.

By the sounds of it, no. Put it as second if you would rather an unbonded place over bonded. If you had bonded as 1 and they gave you that, the rest of your preferences won't be looked it. How are they supposed to know you wanted unbonded over bonded if you listed it second. To reiterate, don't rank by chance that's not how it works.

[iffets12345]

Thanks, but what if I DONT MIND being in bonded (I wouldn't mind helping out the government etc), but due to the small places I don't get in...will it be difficult for me to get into nonbonded as thats my second preference? Since non-bonded is already so popular in first preference, will someone aka me, who put it as second and was rejected in BONDED also lose the likelihood of non-bonded since 2000 people have put non-bonded as their first preference?

[Akirus]

I know nothing about medicine but I don't see why you can't "help the government" after doing the non-bonded degree (only difference is that you have the choice).

[shinny]

I know nothing about medicine but I don't see why you can't "help the government" after doing the non-bonded degree (only difference is that you have the choice).

Exactly. Only difference is you're FORCED to work in an area of shortage. Being an area of shortage, it's not like these places are being set aside for people who have the bonded agreement; there's simply not enough people filling these spots to begin with. If you want to work in them to help out, you can regardless of whether you're bonded or not.

Thanks, but what if I DONT MIND being in bonded (I wouldn't mind helping out the government etc), but due to the small places I don't get in...will it be difficult for me to get into nonbonded as thats my second preference? Since non-bonded is already so popular in first preference, will someone aka me, who put it as second and was rejected in BONDED also lose the likelihood of non-bonded since 2000 people have put non-bonded as their first preference?

Simple answer is that if you couldn't get into an bonded place, there's basically no chance you'll get into a bonded one because basically everyone will be putting unbonded higher up on their preferences - I don't see why you wouldn't. Also, it sounds like you don't really understand the VTAC preference system. Just because 2000 other people have it as their 1st preference and you have it as your 2nd, as long as your ENTER/ATAR and other requirements like UMAT and interview are better than theirs, you still take priority.

[iffets12345]

Simple answer is that if you couldn't get into an bonded place, there's basically no chance you'll get into a bonded one because basically everyone will be putting unbonded higher up on their preferences -

....are you trying to say if I can't get into the bonded, there's no chance I'll get into a nonbonded one?

as long as your ENTER/ATAR and other requirements like UMAT and interview

I am precisely worried my ENTER/ATAR will not be high enough.


Thanks for the advice, I'll put the non bonded as first.

[shinny]

Simple answer is that if you couldn't get into an bonded place, there's basically no chance you'll get into a bonded one because basically everyone will be putting unbonded higher up on their preferences -

....are you trying to say if I can't get into the bonded, there's no chance I'll get into a nonbonded one?

Well yeh basically, considering that the entry requirements into bonded are lower.

[iffets12345]

okay thanks, just checking because you said "bonded" twice and I was confused. It's making alot more sense now. .

[shinny]

okay thanks, just checking because you said "bonded" twice and I was confused. It's making alot more sense now. .

Oh sorry, didn't notice that you bolded what I typo'd. I initially typed it the wrong way round and must of only corrected half of it >_>