Motivation

[vexx]

^ doing six is fine.. i have the worst time management skills and i am managing (kind of.. ).... if you had moderate skills at least, you can smash it..

[EvangelionZeta]

Oh ok, I thought you meant you had 5 subjects, my bad. Is 6 subjects survivable in one year? Maybe I should accelerate one more but I am reluctant to do so...

Oh don't do 6... im doing 4 and dying lol

Lol yeah, I'm not sure whether it's wise to do 6 in year 12 but anyway, has anyone here done 6 subjects (UMEP included) in year 12? If so, how did you find it?

I was considering doing six this year originally actually, but (thankfully?) I wasn't allowed by VCAA to do Philosophy 3/4 with MUEP Philosophy.  I'd probably die if I did both.  Listen to everyone else - just about everyone I know either did one repeat subject when doing six, or started off doing six but dropped down to five pretty soon.  The only person I know who did six subjects (five+one UMEP/MUEP) where ALL were absolutely new was the MGS 99.95 from two years ago who said he slept four hours a day in year 12...

[vexx]

Evangelion! Im doing 6 and haven't dropped any subjects><
 And two of my subjects are outside of school (one being englang which is 4hrs/wk) so that adds travel times.
ALSO I will definitely not be getting a perfect score, but still pretty sure that my results won't be too affected by doing 6.

Uni chem is just one evening per week gone, and then 6 full days throughout the year. It's really not that much! Because cramming is definitely possible for the exams even though i do zero work during the year my test/uni prac average is an H1 (along with mostly everyone) since uni assessments are fairly easy (for chem at least).
if you want to do six, do six.

andddd if i drop any of the subjects im doing, i risk the chance of doing worse as i dont know what i will do better at.. as im rank 1 for PE, further is so easy, and methods im quite highly ranked too without much work; i wouldn't drop uni chem as adds to my enter + looks good when applying for USA colleges. uni chem also makes normal chem quite easy, and so im rank 1 without that much work (still doing quite a bit for exams and sacs though), so this could be you with another uni subject+vce?
 And so im not dropping any of these four, since i could screw up PE or Further or methods! If i study for all then i am almost guaranteed to do well in something! i also have psych if i really needed as a back up (which is why doing 3/4s in year 11 is the best).. my only concern is i wont be doing that well in englang, i am quite lazy so if i wanted to i could do better, but still not well.. i will try and study hard this semester in everything, but with my time management skills improving, i am getting better espeically since im so close to the end!

6 is absolutely fine, don't be disheartened by what everyone says.. i still go out quite a bit, and although i do 'give up' at times, examples methods where i stopped going to classes for a little.. i have stayed with it all and have not done badly as a result! so now i will attend all my classes, but when we start doing matrices in further i wont be going since it's pointless ahah.
 
just my two cents..

OH AND EDIT;
im also doing the UMAT which i haven't really studied for, and the SATs which i will begin studying quite a bit for in august for 2 months, and then beginning study for my SAT II subject tests.. yeah so im doing heaps of stuff, and i can manage, why can't you?

[AzureBlue]

LOL it seems ironic that the people who are doing 4-5 subjects seem to be struggling with it and the people who are doing 6 seem to feel just fine Maybe it's not as bad as people think then...

[littlebecc]

Yeah, i have no motivation.
Finished no homework
Don't really give a fuck.

I never used to be like this aha.

[EvangelionZeta]

Evangelion! Im doing 6 and haven't dropped any subjects><
 And two of my subjects are outside of school (one being englang which is 4hrs/wk) so that adds travel times.
ALSO I will definitely not be getting a perfect score, but still pretty sure that my results won't be too affected by doing 6.

Uni chem is just one evening per week gone, and then 6 full days throughout the year. It's really not that much! Because cramming is definitely possible for the exams even though i do zero work during the year my test/uni prac average is an H1 (along with mostly everyone) since uni assessments are fairly easy (for chem at least).
if you want to do six, do six.

andddd if i drop any of the subjects im doing, i risk the chance of doing worse as i dont know what i will do better at.. as im rank 1 for PE, further is so easy, and methods im quite highly ranked too without much work; i wouldn't drop uni chem as adds to my enter + looks good when applying for USA colleges. uni chem also makes normal chem quite easy, and so im rank 1 without that much work (still doing quite a bit for exams and sacs though), so this could be you with another uni subject+vce?
 And so im not dropping any of these four, since i could screw up PE or Further or methods! If i study for all then i am almost guaranteed to do well in something! i also have psych if i really needed as a back up (which is why doing 3/4s in year 11 is the best).. my only concern is i wont be doing that well in englang, i am quite lazy so if i wanted to i could do better, but still not well.. i will try and study hard this semester in everything, but with my time management skills improving, i am getting better espeically since im so close to the end!

6 is absolutely fine, don't be disheartened by what everyone says.. i still go out quite a bit, and although i do 'give up' at times, examples methods where i stopped going to classes for a little.. i have stayed with it all and have not done badly as a result! so now i will attend all my classes, but when we start doing matrices in further i wont be going since it's pointless ahah.
 
just my two cents..

OH AND EDIT;
im also doing the UMAT which i haven't really studied for, and the SATs which i will begin studying quite a bit for in august for 2 months, and then beginning study for my SAT II subject tests.. yeah so im doing heaps of stuff, and i can manage, why can't you?

Key words at your last bit - "haven't really studied for" and "which i will" - you're not managing the "heaps of stuff" at the moment are you?  

Maybe I'm just bitter because the time I spend in co-currics per week (ignoring social commitments and the like...) is about the same amount of time as three subjects, but I honestly don't think I could handle doing six subjects full-time - or at least, if I did, I'd have to do minimal work for at least one.

The other problem I think you're having is that a lot of your subjects (as you present them) aren't having all that much work done in them, in particular Uni Chem.  I don't mean to sound offensive, but the workload you portray seems closer to five subjects anyway (or similar to my example of "doing minimal work for at least one") - the problems I'm alluding to are people who do six subjects in year 12 whilst intending to work in all of them (hence why I brought up people repeating subjects as an example of how some people manage to do six).

[iffets12345]

I don't think you can count UMAT or SATS for anything, like I wouldn't use them as an excuse for workload , not putting down your workload or anything vexx, you're doing an amazing job .
Just saying, UMAT...all these things, don't deserve to have a "oh it was hard for me in year 12 cause I did it" label.


And, with 6 subjects, you're more stressed and motivated to do more. With 4, you're like "meh."

[darkphoenix]

Evangelion! Im doing 6 and haven't dropped any subjects><
 And two of my subjects are outside of school (one being englang which is 4hrs/wk) so that adds travel times.
ALSO I will definitely not be getting a perfect score, but still pretty sure that my results won't be too affected by doing 6.

Uni chem is just one evening per week gone, and then 6 full days throughout the year. It's really not that much! Because cramming is definitely possible for the exams even though i do zero work during the year my test/uni prac average is an H1 (along with mostly everyone) since uni assessments are fairly easy (for chem at least).
if you want to do six, do six.

andddd if i drop any of the subjects im doing, i risk the chance of doing worse as i dont know what i will do better at.. as im rank 1 for PE, further is so easy, and methods im quite highly ranked too without much work; i wouldn't drop uni chem as adds to my enter + looks good when applying for USA colleges. uni chem also makes normal chem quite easy, and so im rank 1 without that much work (still doing quite a bit for exams and sacs though), so this could be you with another uni subject+vce?
 And so im not dropping any of these four, since i could screw up PE or Further or methods! If i study for all then i am almost guaranteed to do well in something! i also have psych if i really needed as a back up (which is why doing 3/4s in year 11 is the best).. my only concern is i wont be doing that well in englang, i am quite lazy so if i wanted to i could do better, but still not well.. i will try and study hard this semester in everything, but with my time management skills improving, i am getting better espeically since im so close to the end!

6 is absolutely fine, don't be disheartened by what everyone says.. i still go out quite a bit, and although i do 'give up' at times, examples methods where i stopped going to classes for a little.. i have stayed with it all and have not done badly as a result! so now i will attend all my classes, but when we start doing matrices in further i wont be going since it's pointless ahah.
 
just my two cents..

OH AND EDIT;
im also doing the UMAT which i haven't really studied for, and the SATs which i will begin studying quite a bit for in august for 2 months, and then beginning study for my SAT II subject tests.. yeah so im doing heaps of stuff, and i can manage, why can't you?

Key words at your last bit - "haven't really studied for" and "which i will" - you're not managing the "heaps of stuff" at the moment are you? 

Maybe I'm just bitter because the time I spend in co-currics per week (ignoring social commitments and the like...) is about the same amount of time as three subjects, but I honestly don't think I could handle doing six subjects full-time - or at least, if I did, I'd have to do minimal work for at least one.

The other problem I think you're having is that a lot of your subjects (as you present them) aren't having all that much work done in them, in particular Uni Chem.  I don't mean to sound offensive, but the workload you portray seems closer to five subjects anyway (or similar to my example of "doing minimal work for at least one") - the problems I'm alluding to are people who do six subjects in year 12 whilst intending to work in all of them (hence why I brought up people repeateing subjects as an example of how some people manage to do six).

Hm very true. Although it does depend on the individual, i mean i guess some people will be able to handle 6. But i'd imagine most wont, or wouldn't want to. And it would depend on the subjects themselves. Eg. Spesh will consume up a lot of time.

But vexx, if you can handle it, i respect you dude xD

[vexx]

EZ,
as you may/may not know, i am not the strongest of english students, so my arguments were pretty weak :p

basically: doing a uni subject is barely counted as an extra subject, they are very crammable; and so shouldn't take up that much time. this applies to quite a few subjects (some i've never spoke to people about so i don't know.. uni chem and uni maths is a definite, along with some of the arts subjects/sciences)

at the moment: i'm focusing on all my subjects, and will be for the remainder of the term.
whoever is choosing to do six, you will be able to, since its pretty much just 5, with a uni one that possibly makes another vce subject easier, and can be crammed; so the time lost is not too major..


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yeah i know i can't really count UMAT, but over the next few weeks i will be spending the weekends hopefully studying, otherwise i should really cross that off. but SATs im sort of allowed since i will be doing a little bit almost every day for 2months during a pretty stressful time (august, september), and i will cross this off if i don't go by what ive said..

i don't complain about doing so many subjects, nor say it was harder for me, since it is my choice. yes im sure many coudn't handle it, but many can, even if they don't think so initially (i didn't at the beginning).

[iffets12345]

okay vexx, I wasn't dissing you or anything. (Y).

[vexx]

okay vexx, I wasn't dissing you or anything. (Y).

ahha nahh i realised what i said did actually sound slightly silly ;o

[tram]

@ Azure:

EZ got it in one......it reli depends on the amount of co-curricular stuff you plan to do. e.g. i know i do a *shite* load of extra stuff that eats up lots of time (despite my parent's protests ). It's about the balance YOU want.

If for a year, you reli can put ur head down and study and ignore eveything thing else and that's what you reli wanna do, go for the six subjects, hell, if that's what you will actually do, ur gonna get one near perfect enter, but IMO, i would urge you to sacrifice a bit of ur enter and actually take advantage of the opportunities you are still fortunate enough to be able to get while ur still in high school. Having said that, i commit to way to much and that's how i get screwed over with work >.<

Bottom line, if you just want an enter out of school, i have every faith in you being able to obtain a VERY high enter azure, but please remember you can't just measure the sucess of ur high school career from JUST ur enter


Oh and vexx, trust me, uni maths IS NOT CRAMMABLE.....i've got a test tomo on everything we've learnt this year....closed book...and I"M SCREWED....hence y i'm on vn complaning about it rather than studying ....but yea.....UNI MATHS IS NOT CRAMMABLE

[vexx]

^ sorry tram, maybe the people i'd spoke to were good at cramming hehe....

and yeah i agree, ECs can definitely add a lot of time, so if your doing heaps of ECs (as in very time-consuming ones) then maybe 6 is not the best option...

ahh well, i guess it is all up to the person, i shouldn't assume these things.
but azure: it's definitely possible, listen to what everyone is saying, but it is possible.

alsoooo realise that people do IB are all doing 6 subjects (three of which are the standard course with uni level - HL courses) and a lot of ECs, also doing other tasks like ToK and EE.. not all of them are extremely intelligent, but they manage. if they can, so can we.;p
yesyes different system but its comparable.

[iffets12345]

Oh and vexx, trust me, uni maths IS NOT CRAMMABLE.....i've got a test tomo on everything we've learnt this year....closed book...and I"M SCREWED....hence y i'm on vn complaning about it rather than studying ....but yea.....UNI MATHS IS NOT CRAMMABLE

i do no co-curriculars so I suck since I am not managing
anyways, tram does UMEP, I do MUEP and MONASH COURSES ARE CRAMMABLE. They make it easier for us, those kind people LOL.
IB people are pro, I feel guilty about our vce system.

and Tram- GET OFF VN.

[tram]

fine, fine, GETTING OFF