BSc/BE @ monash?

[98.40_for_sure]

i have genuine interest in science (physics & chemistry)
anything to do with biology is a no no
so i figured engineering is a good way to go as good career and interest
its just if i do sci/eng i cant pick all the subjects i want in first year!
maths + chem + astronomy + physics (incl. foundation) + eng is too much

[TrueLight]

hey na you can do all those units .... because when you major in astrophysics . the minor requirement can be physics and mathematics too

here ive worked out a suggested pathway (you can change the chm units to whateva you like)... hope its right taking into account the prerequisites etc.
so sci/eng is 5 years and you need 240 points... 132 points being eng units and 108 points being sci units

1st year
chm1011,chm1022
eng1010, eng1060
mth2010, mth1030
phs1080, phs1022

2nd year
asp2011, asp2062
chm2911, chm2922
che2161,che2162
che2164, che2163

3rd year
chm3911, chm3922
asp3051, asp3012
che3161, che3162
che3163, che3172

4th year
chm3952, chm3180
asp3231, mth2032
che3165, che3164
ene3608, che3166

5th year
che4161, che4170
che4162, che4163
che4180, che4172
mte2541, che3175

[98.40_for_sure]

hey na you can do all those units .... because when you major in astrophysics . the minor requirement can be physics and mathematics too

here ive worked out a suggested pathway (you can change the chm units to whateva you like)... hope its right taking into account the prerequisites etc.
so sci/eng is 5 years and you need 240 points... 132 points being eng units and 108 points being sci units

1st year
chm1011,chm1022
eng1010, eng1060
mth1020, mth1030
phs1080, phs1022

2nd year
asp2011, asp2062
chm2911, chm2922
che2161,che2162
che2164, che2163

3rd year
chm3911, chm3922
asp3051, asp3012
che3161, che3162
che3163, che3172

4th year
chm3952, chm3180
asp3231, mth2032
che3165, che3164
ene3608, che3166

5th year
che4161, che4170
che4162, che4163
che4180, che4172
mte2541, che3175

oh wow thanks for that man i couldnt sleep all last night thinking about whether to do Sci or Sci/Eng
but just one question... i cant do ASP1010 and ASP1022 ?
they sound heaps fun lol

and i seriously have no idea where you pulled all those subject codes, cos on the monash handbook page thing, i only see one pathway for chemical engineering and they dont have that stuff. im so noob

[TrueLight]

i got the info from both here and here
http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/courses/0085.html
http://www.eng.monash.edu.au/chemical/current/ug/units.html.... scroll to here BSc-BE Double Degree and it pretty much is the setup for the course

hm you can't do asp1010 and asp1022 because you need chem prerequisites...unless you want to do a physics major but i was guessing that you already do a astrophysics major so you know whats the point... but its up to you... but i guess you can if you overload which you'll have to ask about... but anyway asp2011 in second year should cover all the basics (included in 1st year) since the prequisites are only 1st year physics units so they'll have to cover the topics for the students who didn't do 1st year astro... and besides 2nd yr units are usually better lol

[98.40_for_sure]

ahh ok thanks
i didnt know about that eng page
i know that you do 4 units a semester but whats all this stuff about major/minors?
like how many of each do you do etc
my understanding at the moment is that
for the engineering side im majoring in chemical eng?
and science im majoring astrophysics and minor in chem, physics, maths?

[Cthulhu]

The first year astronomy units aren't necessary unless you plan on minoring in astronomy/astrophysics.

[98.40_for_sure]

The first year astronomy units aren't necessary unless you plan on minoring in astronomy/astrophysics.

does minoring in it just mean you do less units of it?

[TrueLight]

yep

usually just 1st and 2nd year units

[98.40_for_sure]

since the enter required for this course is quite high (subjective)
if i dont get in, is there any other pathway i can take? or will i have to just do science single degree

[TrueLight]

ahh ok thanks
i didnt know about that eng page
i know that you do 4 units a semester but whats all this stuff about major/minors?
like how many of each do you do etc
my understanding at the moment is that
for the engineering side im majoring in chemical eng?
and science im majoring astrophysics and minor in chem, physics, maths?

you do your chemical eng component with an elective engineering stream (from either Sustainable Processing,Nanotechnology and Materials or Biotechnology) and then you can double major in science component... i.e: astrophysics and chemistry .... or astrophysics and physics
choose from here http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/2010handbooks/undergrad/sci-aos-clayton.html


don't know if the enter is 93.45 but all you can do it try your best.

if you don't get in you can just do science ... majoring in any of those i linked above
or try transfer if you really want to do chm engineering since you can already take most of those 1st yr units in science degree

[Cthulhu]

since the enter required for this course is quite high (subjective)
if i dont get in, is there any other pathway i can take? or will i have to just do science single degree

You could do a year of science or a year of engineering and then transfer. Although I'm not exactly sure how someone transfers into a double degree you'll have to ask the faculties.

[98.40_for_sure]

so my majors in science would be astrophysics and chemistry?
where does "maths" go? as ive heard that chemical engineering should be done with chem and maths and physics?
*bangs head* why so confusing :S

[Cthulhu]

Maths would be your minor.

[TrueLight]

you don't have to have it with chm, maths and physics... but the setup i used has to those subjects because that is what your interested in...

actually you wouldn't minor
but you don't have to because you can either have two majors in the science component of the degree
or a double major and a minor or one major and three minors...

you wouldn't minor because your missing one unit... (and i changed the suggested setup from mth1020 to mth2010 because you need this as a prereq for your astrophysics units) and the prereq for mth1030 is specialist maths which your doing. so cross your fingers for at least a B in the written components of the exam or else you will have to overload.... and besides all that the mth units are prereqs for astrophysics so it wouldn't count... because if the units are being used towards a major then they can't also be used for a minor sequence.... but you don't have to worry as long as you get 108 points and you have 2 majors it should be okay

[Mao]

@99.95, if you hate programming, why are you even considering engineering? You do realise the entire engineering profession heavily relies on computing right?