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Organic forms of forgetting
« on: July 09, 2010, 03:07:03 am »
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Hi guys just a couple of quick questions
1. Are anterograde and retrograde amnesia types of organic amnesia? or just amnesia in general?
2. In retrograde amnesia is the the persons current memory disrupted as well as their memory previous to the damage?
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2010, 02:34:31 pm »
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1. Anterograde and retrograde amnesia merely describes the 'what' has been forgotten, in particular the time period of which it's lost. It doesn't say anything about the 'how' the amnesia came to be.
2. Think Retro - it's disruption to memory from before the amnesia event.
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 03:48:31 pm »
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Quote from: Glockmeister on July 09, 2010, 02:34:31 pm
1. Anterograde and retrograde amnesia merely describes the 'what' has been forgotten, in particular the time period of which it's lost. It doesn't say anything about the 'how' the amnesia came to be.

the grivas textbook agrees with glockmeister here. "the term amnesia is used to refer to loss of memory, either partial or complete, temporary or permanent". Anterograde and Retrograde specify what period of memory (either before or after the incident) is affected.

the text book also states: "memory loss due to organic factors is generally called 'organic amnesia' "
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 07:35:46 pm »
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in other words, amnesia can have either an organic, or psychological origin/cause?
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 08:20:38 pm »
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i'm not sure. freud proposed that there are psychological causes for forgetting (repression/ suppression) but i'm not sure if there are psychological causes for amnesia
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 08:22:23 pm »
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hmm, yes I think thats correct.
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 08:27:25 pm »
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the definition for amnesia seems pretty broad though. "a loss of memory, either partial or complete, temporary or permanent" (correct me if my definition is wrong). which it seems like it would encapsulate all forms of forgetting. but... I don't know, i'm confusing myself because most information about forgetting is just theories. I dunno, I don't like this question :(
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 08:39:47 pm »
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Quote from: hawks08 on July 09, 2010, 03:07:03 am
Hi guys just a couple of quick questions
1. Are anterograde and retrograde amnesia types of organic amnesia? or just amnesia in general?
2. In retrograde amnesia is the the persons current memory disrupted as well as their memory previous to the damage?
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In regards to the second question, if the persons current memory is impaired (and memory prior to damage), they have anterograde amnesia as well as retrograde.
retro means backwards, so retrograde amnesia refers to amnesia affecting memory prior to the brain injury, (including the memory of the accident, due to consolidation being interrupted)
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 04:42:49 pm »
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Have a look at the wikipedia, ladies and gents

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesia

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i'm not sure. freud proposed that there are psychological causes for forgetting (repression/ suppression) but i'm not sure if there are psychological causes for amnesia

I would say that forgetting and amnesia are two separate concepts, although interrelated. Amnesia is usually (but not always) a result of a traumatic experience (in both senses, psychological and physiological), whereas forgetting is a normal process that is a result of the inability to retrieve information from LTM. 
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 07:31:22 pm »
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yes, after some research, I discovered that repression is also known as psychogenic amnesia.
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 10:54:44 pm »
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Quote from: Glockmeister on July 09, 2010, 02:34:31 pm
1. Anterograde and retrograde amnesia merely describes the 'what' has been forgotten, in particular the time period of which it's lost. It doesn't say anything about the 'how' the amnesia came to be.
2. Think Retro - it's disruption to memory from before the amnesia event.
hmmm i  have a sac on tuesday and im still not sure about all this.
are you sure about anterograde and retrograde amnesia not being types of organic amnesia bcause in the grivas book it mentions barin damage in their definitions.
3 SACs last week have really got me unprepared for the psyche sac :(
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Re: Organic forms of forgetting
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2010, 02:01:44 am »
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Quote from: hawks08 on July 31, 2010, 10:54:44 pm
Quote from: Glockmeister on July 09, 2010, 02:34:31 pm
1. Anterograde and retrograde amnesia merely describes the 'what' has been forgotten, in particular the time period of which it's lost. It doesn't say anything about the 'how' the amnesia came to be.
2. Think Retro - it's disruption to memory from before the amnesia event.
hmmm i  have a sac on tuesday and im still not sure about all this.
are you sure about anterograde and retrograde amnesia not being types of organic amnesia bcause in the grivas book it mentions barin damage in their definitions.
3 SACs last week have really got me unprepared for the psyche sac :(

No, what I'm saying is that they don't have to be from an organic reason, although they definitely can be and in clincal practice, would likely be the case.
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