The pros and cons of VCE English

[asa.hoshi]

i hate english! lol

[Sheikh05]

It's ok, I concede you're better than me at English  :cry:

Cry. Cry more. Your tears give me strength  :twisted:

[Ahmad]

I'll have you know I've never cried in my life.

[Sheikh05]

There was that one time...*mischief*

[Ahmad]

When?

[Collin Li]

i like having english as compulsory, good communication and analytical skills are valuable in every line of work.

+1

With this argument, you could similarly argue that some sort of microeconomics course should be compulsory. The microeconomic ideas are critical for rational thinking and apply to individual self-responsibility and self-accountability for your own actions.

[Ahmad]

Optimally nothing should be compulsory. Everyone should have the right to make their own decision as to what is (not) "essential" or "valuable".

[BA22]

With this argument, you could similarly argue that some sort of microeconomics course should be compulsory. The microeconomic ideas are critical for rational thinking and apply to individual self-responsibility and self-accountability for your own actions.

C'mon . . coblin, i know english is a bit if a kick in the crotch if it's not your thing, but it has a good place in the VCE, it is the only subject that allows a general assessment of people's spoken, written and language comprehension skills in the primary language of this country. English has and will always have a place as a compulsory subject. The people who want that changed are a small minority. If you say you know people who agree with you . . . fine. But that rural students need english, it's their primary method of competing with the superior resources of metropolitan schools

[Collin Li]

Optimally nothing should be compulsory. Everyone should have the right to make their own decision as to what is (not) "essential" or "valuable".

I agree!

BA22, I am not disagreeing with those motives that rustic_metal believes in as good reasons for VCE English, I think it's a good idea. Unfortunately, it only remains an idea, and not a practice. Ultimately, I agree with what Ahmad said though, nothing should be compulsory in VCE.

If something must be compulsory, then it should be a broad subject which is a package of English, basic logical principles extracted from economics, and rudimentary mathematical skills. This is the only fair system. This exam should replace the GAT

[Khangfu]

Making English language compulsory would ahve been more practical. Right now im reading a book about a retarded british journalist who tells me what i want, and regards everything the american says as a poor assessment.

[rustic_metal]

why english language?

[BA22]

why english language?

because everyone has their bias, which is why this thread exists

[rustic_metal]

i do english language and cant see any reason why it could be made compulsory.

[Collin Li]

Right now im reading a book about a retarded british journalist who tells me what i want, and regards everything the american says as a poor assessment.

I don't see the connection here (to this topic), but my two cents is that he's probably a socialist, haha.

[Khangfu]

His name is Thomas FOwler. See how retarded the text is. Its so gayyyyyyyyyyyy. English language would have been more preferrable