The pros and cons of VCE English

[ninwa]

lol, I reckon doing 8 subjects is better. It means you can stuff up two subjects and still be ok

[Toothpaste]

i wish id done lit as well as english tho, to allow me to stuff up in one.. i was gona do it, i did 1/2 last year, but continued with chem instead of lit.. although i am glad i did chem so hmm. i wish my school gave you the option of doing 2 3/4s in yr 11

Same. We were discouraged from doing so, but there were people doing it anyway. =\ should've jumped on the bandwagon.

[Pencil]

i wish id done lit as well as english tho, to allow me to stuff up in one.. i was gona do it, i did 1/2 last year, but continued with chem instead of lit.. although i am glad i did chem so hmm. i wish my school gave you the option of doing 2 3/4s in yr 11

gah me too! that is like my biggest regret! but my school told us we wern't allowed, it wasn't until later that I found out you had to fight for it.

[melanie.dee]

yeh it annoys me everytime i think about it, but because i moved to a new school in yr 11, i wasnt realy in a position to fight hahah, and i didnt even no really that people did 2, but i found out that a few people were doing 2. like seriously, its so much easier doing themin yr 11, i dont know why you wouldnt.

they stopped my friend from even doing one in yr 11, and i think thats so stupid, because it puts more pressure on her this year and she only has one back up subject now, and like seriously, what wouldve been the worst thing that could happen with her doing one last year? yeh not getting as well as possible, but then who cares, its a good experience!

[rustic_metal]

thats extreme! and i see you got 8 subjects, that's a lot i think its better for you just to do 7

if you want a bit of a challenge i suggest this:

2008: Methods, English Language
2009: Physics, Spesh, Chemistry, Uni Math

already doing that, but swapping spesh and language, and lit added into the 2nd year.

my 2nd year is going to be so hardcore

[Pencil]

yeh it annoys me everytime i think about it, but because i moved to a new school in yr 11, i wasnt realy in a position to fight hahah, and i didnt even no really that people did 2, but i found out that a few people were doing 2. like seriously, its so much easier doing themin yr 11, i dont know why you wouldnt.

they stopped my friend from even doing one in yr 11, and i think thats so stupid, because it puts more pressure on her this year and she only has one back up subject now, and like seriously, what wouldve been the worst thing that could happen with her doing one last year? yeh not getting as well as possible, but then who cares, its a good experience!

I know, at my school they even discourage you from doing 1 and make out like only the 'smarter' students can handle it, so alot of my friends got scared out of doing it cos they thought you had to be real smart , and now they reallly regret it. It takes so much pressure off if you can do well in it. And you don't have to be smart, you have soo much more time when you are in year 11. If I had done 2 last year, I would only really have to concentrate on 2 this year, it would be a breeeze damit!

[Toothpaste]

yeh it annoys me everytime i think about it, but because i moved to a new school in yr 11, i wasnt realy in a position to fight hahah, and i didnt even no really that people did 2, but i found out that a few people were doing 2. like seriously, its so much easier doing themin yr 11, i dont know why you wouldnt.

they stopped my friend from even doing one in yr 11, and i think thats so stupid, because it puts more pressure on her this year and she only has one back up subject now, and like seriously, what wouldve been the worst thing that could happen with her doing one last year? yeh not getting as well as possible, but then who cares, its a good experience!

I know, at my school they even discourage you from doing 1 and make out like only the 'smarter' students can handle it, so alot of my friends got scared out of doing it cos they thought you had to be real smart , and now they reallly regret it. It takes so much pressure off if you can do well in it. And you don't have to be smart, you have soo much more time when you are in year 11. If I had done 2 last year, I would only really have to concentrate on 2 this year, it would be a breeeze damit!

Exactly the same at my school ... sigh.

[brendan]

teh same at mhs

[brendan]

already doing that, but swapping spesh and language, and lit added into the 2nd year.

my 2nd year is going to be so hardcore

i know im suggesting that program i put up instead. cos its better to do methods before spesh (what i did). and there is no point in doing 8 subjects as only 6 will be counted, so you are better off focusing your scarce resources (time) on stuff that will count towards your ENTER.

[brendan]

yeh it annoys me everytime i think about it, but because i moved to a new school in yr 11, i wasnt realy in a position to fight hahah, and i didnt even no really that people did 2, but i found out that a few people were doing 2. like seriously, its so much easier doing themin yr 11, i dont know why you wouldnt.

they stopped my friend from even doing one in yr 11, and i think thats so stupid, because it puts more pressure on her this year and she only has one back up subject now, and like seriously, what wouldve been the worst thing that could happen with her doing one last year? yeh not getting as well as possible, but then who cares, its a good experience!

yeah i don't think its about fighting, its just about demanding that your educational needs be met, if they don't want to, move somewhere else, or take the VCE subjects you want outside of school from RMIT or VIC uni or CAE, they all provide VCE subjects. If you want it, they have it.

In the end, we are all consumers of education, and the schools are producers. Set out what you want, and find out a school that will provide you with what you want. When my school didn't let me do what I wanted in year 12, i pushed for it, and when they wouldn't budge, i picked up and left to a school that did let me do what i want.

[cara.mel]

The problem is, that we effectively made our decisions for VCE at the end of year 9 (to start some 1/2s in year 10), at that point in time people tend to trust their school and not look outside it for other options.

Eg at my school the maths department pushes really hard to get heaps of kids doing methods, so there's always a year 11 3/4 class. At the same time, school also pretty much doesn't let people do physics/chem earlier. Looking back I would have loved to have swapped when I did methods and chem.
And also, I only learnt about things like distance ed, and there is a 1/2 that leads on to spesh, this year. My vce program would have looked quite different if I knew all of that beforehand (definitely wouldn't have IS in there).

I'm glad though that my school runs language, first time I've liked english and I would have never known about it if school didn't run it.
And that my school lets quite a few people do 2 3/4s in year 11 (although I think starting next year they are going to be a lot tighter on it but)

[rustic_metal]

already doing that, but swapping spesh and language, and lit added into the 2nd year.

my 2nd year is going to be so hardcore

i know im suggesting that program i put up instead. cos its better to do methods before spesh (what i did). and there is no point in doing 8 subjects as only 6 will be counted, so you are better off focusing your scarce resources (time) on stuff that will count towards your ENTER.

time aint a problem for me. i study about once a month for each subject and still pull good results. should probably cut down a few shifts a week though..

[mouseboi]

My school doesn't let students do 2 3/4 subjects in Year 11 either unless the second subject is a language or music. I wish I was allowed to do 3/4 English in Year 11. The course is pretty much identical and that way you get a second chance for a crucial subject although I'm not even sure VCAA allows that.

[rustic_metal]

My school doesn't let students do 2 3/4 subjects in Year 11 either unless the second subject is a language or music. I wish I was allowed to do 3/4 English in Year 11. The course is pretty much identical and that way you get a second chance for a crucial subject although I'm not even sure VCAA allows that.

vcaa does allow that, but if you dont get a good score the first time in english, you should probably do language the second time.

[Collin Li]

MHS discouraged English Language, and I think there was a shortage of demand so it didn't run in my year. I really think a solid investment in English Language resources and advertising it as a viable alternative to English would go a long way to help the 'logically inclined' of MHS.

We get great raw scores, but only few match good raw scores with good English raw scores.