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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2010, 08:16:56 pm »
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Thanks a lot, BM is really competitive in order to get that 45 I realise now :/

Side note: I think if you got 44 last year then it will be scaled according to last years stats, not this years
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2010, 08:33:17 pm »
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Haha no probs. I meant like hopefully it's 44.98 so at the end of this year it won't go down as much. probably down to 43 if I'm lucky, for some weird reason 2009 didn't get scaled down as much haha. Good luck for the rest of the year! Hope you get over 45.
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2010, 09:35:43 pm »
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Haha no probs. I meant like hopefully it's 44.98 so at the end of this year it won't go down as much. probably down to 43 if I'm lucky, for some weird reason 2009 didn't get scaled down as much haha. Good luck for the rest of the year! Hope you get over 45.
I would so hate to get 44 instead of 45, no assembly announcement the year later...
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2010, 10:11:30 pm »
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Haha no probs. I meant like hopefully it's 44.98 so at the end of this year it won't go down as much. probably down to 43 if I'm lucky, for some weird reason 2009 didn't get scaled down as much haha. Good luck for the rest of the year! Hope you get over 45.
I would so hate to get 44 instead of 45, no assembly announcement the year later...

I would so hate for someone to rub it in.... Don't make me wish a 44 upon you too! hahaha.
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2010, 10:21:33 pm »
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Haha no probs. I meant like hopefully it's 44.98 so at the end of this year it won't go down as much. probably down to 43 if I'm lucky, for some weird reason 2009 didn't get scaled down as much haha. Good luck for the rest of the year! Hope you get over 45.
I would so hate to get 44 instead of 45, no assembly announcement the year later...

I would so hate for someone to rub it in.... Don't make me wish a 44 upon you too! hahaha.
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2010, 11:16:09 pm »
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110/120 got me 44 (Now that I'm thinking about it.. that 44 at the end of this year better be like 44.98). Weird how a 43 was 107/120. and yet a 50 was 115/120 last year .... It's just super competitive...don't screw a question up or risk getting below 45. Getting over 45 and below it are literally half a mark difference (and yes there can be half mark differences because there's two assessors and one could allow the mark and the other could not). So just be as precise as possible and you should be able to get the mark you deserve.

The half a mark thing is real annoying. Looking back at my statement of marks, I lost 4 marks from questions were one examiner gave me full marks and the other took one off. I.e: One gave 8/8 and the other gave 7/8.

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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2010, 08:26:55 am »
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So basically your chance of a 45-50 is based on the two or three examiners' perception of how you explain the questions, where they can mark harshly and lets say another two or three random examiners might mark it more leniently. Can the system be so flawed as to have something like this happen?
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2010, 04:20:16 pm »
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So basically your chance of a 45-50 is based on the two or three examiners' perception of how you explain the questions, where they can mark harshly and lets say another two or three random examiners might mark it more leniently. Can the system be so flawed as to have something like this happen?
Ask shilayli06 just to confirm what I'm saying, but if you get 55+/60 then you will get more examiners to check it, but otherwise it's just luck, hopefully they are all very aware of the guidelines though on what's required...
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2010, 04:46:20 pm »
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So basically your chance of a 45-50 is based on the two or three examiners' perception of how you explain the questions, where they can mark harshly and lets say another two or three random examiners might mark it more leniently. Can the system be so flawed as to have something like this happen?
Ask shilayli06 just to confirm what I'm saying, but if you get 55+/60 then you will get more examiners to check it, but otherwise it's just luck, hopefully they are all very aware of the guidelines though on what's required...

No I don't think this happens.
How ever, if there is a big difference in the two examiners mark it goes to a third assessor.
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2010, 05:21:47 pm »
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So basically your chance of a 45-50 is based on the two or three examiners' perception of how you explain the questions, where they can mark harshly and lets say another two or three random examiners might mark it more leniently. Can the system be so flawed as to have something like this happen?
Ask shilayli06 just to confirm what I'm saying, but if you get 55+/60 then you will get more examiners to check it, but otherwise it's just luck, hopefully they are all very aware of the guidelines though on what's required...

Yep. A third assessor is only involved if there is a difference of 2 marks. Regardless of whether its in the really high range or not. Nearly every question that I lost a mark on, one assessor allowed it and the other didn't. Yet in the end they ended up with a difference of one mark so it didn't get remarked. I think ANY difference should be remarked. And yes, sometimes it can be down to the bias of the assessor as to what they like and don't like, but for the majority the marking is quite fair.
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2010, 09:09:21 pm »
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Haha no probs. I meant like hopefully it's 44.98 so at the end of this year it won't go down as much. probably down to 43 if I'm lucky, for some weird reason 2009 didn't get scaled down as much haha. Good luck for the rest of the year! Hope you get over 45.

study scores are always a whole number before scaling... you can't have a 44.98 raw score..
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2010, 09:13:58 pm »
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Haha no probs. I meant like hopefully it's 44.98 so at the end of this year it won't go down as much. probably down to 43 if I'm lucky, for some weird reason 2009 didn't get scaled down as much haha. Good luck for the rest of the year! Hope you get over 45.

study scores are always a whole number before scaling... you can't have a 44.98 raw score..

really? I guess we'll see at the end of this year whether that's true cos I've been told otherwise. You just don't see what's after the decimal point until you see how it's been scaled with your entire atar..
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2010, 09:34:27 pm »
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Haha no probs. I meant like hopefully it's 44.98 so at the end of this year it won't go down as much. probably down to 43 if I'm lucky, for some weird reason 2009 didn't get scaled down as much haha. Good luck for the rest of the year! Hope you get over 45.

study scores are always a whole number before scaling... you can't have a 44.98 raw score..

really? I guess we'll see at the end of this year whether that's true cos I've been told otherwise. You just don't see what's after the decimal point until you see how it's been scaled with your entire atar..

nah that's not true
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2010, 07:44:25 pm »
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Just realised the exam is worth 65 marks (130 after doubling) this year (still 2 hrs though). With the new study design and the implementation of the 10 mark question (Change management-Kotter's theory) could you predict that you can drop more then 5 marks to still get 45? I'm predicting people will be put off or misinformed about the 10 mark question and end up screwing up so are chances of getting a higher SS possible?
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Re: Getting a 45 in BM?
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2010, 09:02:26 pm »
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Just realised the exam is worth 65 marks (130 after doubling) this year (still 2 hrs though). With the new study design and the implementation of the 10 mark question (Change management-Kotter's theory) could you predict that you can drop more then 5 marks to still get 45? I'm predicting people will be put off or misinformed about the 10 mark question and end up screwing up so are chances of getting a higher SS possible?

I actually think with the new study design, Business Management would scale down less. :P
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