PEOPLE GO EXERCISE

[roberto]

"but it's soo cold outside" XD

i second that. its wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too cold. and raining ><

[nabbiechan]

If people complains about the cold weather, it is recommended to use wii fit. :coolsmiley:

[crayolé]

Correlation does not equal causation ;3

[Visionz]

Working out is just like studying. Work in work out. You also have to know when to rest, when enough is enough. You need to sleep well and eat right to make the best gains and this compliments VCE.

Nitric oxide is also a better stimulant than coffee.

I find nitric oxide doesn't work... and it's frickin expensive

starts to kick in about 30 mins into working out for me. Then the rest of my workout is insane. love the pump.

[98.40_for_sure]

Working out is just like studying. Work in work out. You also have to know when to rest, when enough is enough. You need to sleep well and eat right to make the best gains and this compliments VCE.

Nitric oxide is also a better stimulant than coffee.

I find nitric oxide doesn't work... and it's frickin expensive

starts to kick in about 30 mins into working out for me. Then the rest of my workout is insane. love the pump.

What do you use? I've only used black powder and superpump 250... superpump worked a little bit, but black powder had no effect

[Visionz]

SP250. Ive only used it for a couple of weeks. tonight my forearms got so pumped it was painful. I nearly dropped the weights cause my hands were so damn full of 'fatiguing by-products'. 
I want to drop a little more bodyfat and then see what its like. Gotta cut again before schoolies, ill test it out just before then. Its going to be insane, i look forward to it.

[kendraaaaa]

All those supplements are a waste of money, for us anyway. You're what? 17 years old maybe 18, you should have more than enough energy to do a workout at 100%. If you don't, sleep more and eat more.

[matt123]

All those supplements are a waste of money, for us anyway. You're what? 17 years old maybe 18, you should have more than enough energy to do a workout at 100%. If you don't, sleep more and eat more.

yeh agreed
im playing under 18;s falcons .. ( BASICLY , the highest level of footy for a young 16 year old)
and i have to do weight training 3 days a week ...
using supplements is stupid if your not working it off 100% .. it just becomes added fat.
and at 17-18 .. its really unnessesary .. your not trying to become a body builder .. and even if you are .. its relatively useless ...
ontop of that .. too much supplements ( and most people dont use them properly) leads to problems with sleeping .. and over time . kidney and liver problems
whats the point? they dont even "ENHANCE" half as well as they are advertised

just my opinion
..
wanna get tank? .. do cardio vascular work .. and weight training

[98.40_for_sure]

I agree that the guys that go out and blow $800 on supps in an attempt to get "massive" are a bit over the top. But if there are 5000000 tubs sitting at home half used, and will never be touched again, why not?

I think my body is not responsive to many supplements such as nitric oxide and creatine, so it feels like a waste. Not to mention creatine tastes like ass.

[slothpomba]

Holy crap a crappy pacman costume on ebay is 150 bucks.. :idiot2:
(haha i just noticed... this was meant to be in the muck up day thread)

[Visionz]

Well ive been training for 8-9 months and ive spent 300 bucks on supps in that time. None of my own money. I kind of got the SP250 given to me and like i said ive only used it a few times. I have no problem with energy or getting a pump without supps so im not sure if i will renew my supply. The only constant from now on will be what I need for my post workout drinks (whey protein + high-GI carb source)

Falcons weight training if its like any of the other TAC cup clubs is crap for what I want to be. More focused on power, endurance and preventing injury than putting on real size. Not to mention you lot go heavier on bench than you do with squats. Ridiculous. I was reading one program and they were squatting 50kgs for their reps. I can f***** curl that. I guess they need to keep their legs fresh for running/games though so its understandable, just not something for me.

Also cardio wont get you tank. Not if you could be spending that time actually lifting weights.

[matt123]

Well ive been training for 8-9 months and ive spent 300 bucks on supps in that time. None of my own money. I kind of got the SP250 given to me and like i said ive only used it a few times. I have no problem with energy or getting a pump without supps so im not sure if i will renew my supply. The only constant from now on will be what I need for my post workout drinks (whey protein + high-GI carb source)

Falcons weight training if its like any of the other TAC cup clubs is crap for what I want to be. More focused on power, endurance and preventing injury than putting on real size. Not to mention you lot go heavier on bench than you do with squats. Ridiculous. I was reading one program and they were squatting 50kgs for their reps. I can f***** curl that. I guess they need to keep their legs fresh for running/games though so its understandable, just not something for me.

Also cardio wont get you tank. Not if you could be spending that time actually lifting weights.

ok buddy
ill be honest with you here.

spending 300 bucks on supplements is honestly not going to do anything at your age.
your body does not get even CLOSE to burning off all the extra fat and sugar that is in those shakes.
trust me . ive used them before.... all thats gonna happen . is you will become more heavy .. and less toned. but larger arms.

also
the reason we do squats and leg press etc , .. is simply because football has become a very aneorobic sport ( running very heavily for short periods of time without alot of oxygen).
we need strong legs in-order to keep that speed up.

also
the main thing you have to understand.
getting "tank" is not as easy as .. lifting weights , protein shake . rest. and repeat.
that MIGHT make your arms larger in volume. .. but it will not increase power/endurance/strength and prevent injury.
its all about cardio buddy.
the more cardio you do .. the better your body can supply blood the muscles.
the muscles cant do anything if there is poor blood flow.

also . the more cardio you do .. the lower your skin fold fat becomes .. and the muscles will look "toned"

its very imporant to do running/swimming or cycling whilst weight training . or honestly .. your not going to get far at your age.

[Kennybhoy]

Wanking uses up heaps of energy.

[Visionz]

ok buddy
ill be honest with you here.

spending 300 bucks on supplements is honestly not going to do anything at your age.
your body does not get even CLOSE to burning off all the extra fat and sugar that is in those shakes.
trust me . ive used them before.... all thats gonna happen . is you will become more heavy .. and less toned. but larger arms.

also
the reason we do squats and leg press etc , .. is simply because football has become a very aneorobic sport ( running very heavily for short periods of time without alot of oxygen).
we need strong legs in-order to keep that speed up.

also
the main thing you have to understand.
getting "tank" is not as easy as .. lifting weights , protein shake . rest. and repeat.
that MIGHT make your arms larger in volume. .. but it will not increase power/endurance/strength and prevent injury.
its all about cardio buddy.
the more cardio you do .. the better your body can supply blood the muscles.


also . the more cardio you do .. the lower your skin fold fat becomes .. and the muscles will look "toned"

its very imporant to do running/swimming or cycling whilst weight training . or honestly .. your not going to get far at your age.

Firstly I have lost a lot of hope knowing that you got a 44 in PE.


Its protein powder. You need protein to help grow and if you cant get enough through food, or you need faster absorbing protein because you want to make the most of the immediate post-workout period, then you should supplement it.
You need it regardless of age to build muscle.
The idea is not to burn the protein off (you should know that you rarely utilise protein for energy for movement) it is to metabolise it and use it to repair/grow.
It wont be stored as fat unless there is an excessive amount of it. Half the time an excess amount would be shat out anyway. During recovery though, protein has a very useful purpose (to repair) so the body if you supplement right then its most certainly not surplus to requirements.


Youve missed my point on the squats. You guys squat light. I squat heavy. You guys have chicken legs. I have bulging tear drops (VMO).


Getting tank is not easy. It takes time. Lifting weights + proper diet/nutrition + rest/recovery = growth. Supplementation may give a little boost to all of those elements.


Honestly how can you get a 44 in PE and then come here and say "that MIGHT make your arms larger in volume. .. but it will not increase power/endurance/strength and prevent injury". You have to lift heavier weights to keep seeing benefits - to KEEP YOUR ARMS GROWING. Progressive overload?? Your arms dont just grow by going through the motions with any old weight. You need to make linear progress with weights being lifted to make linear, upwards progress with your measurements! Also how the f*** can lifting weights not cause increases in power, LME and STRENGTH?? Hahahaha. Serious question.. are you f***ing retarded?


Sure cardio can help but have you ever seen a jacked marathon runner? You cant be a cardio-bunny and be big. The more cardio you do the higher your blood volume, the higher your LIP, etc. and yes they are all beneficial for lifting. But working your ANAEROBIC systems will help with anaerobic components such as muscular hypertrophy, strength, power, LME*, etc. so much more.


"the muscles cant do anything if there is poor blood flow"- again, 44 in PE and youre still not aware that theres an ANAEROBIC system? And just because people dont do continuous cardio doesnt mean they have a resting heart rate of 85 and cant get 5 on the beep test. My resting heart rate is something like 55 and I do very little sub-maximal exercise.


Looking 'toned' ie. having a lower bodyfat% is more the result of dieting than cardio. Cardio burns a lot of calories so can be useful for losing fat but you dont HAVE to do cardio to stay lean or lose fat. If youre not eating enough to maintain your weight then you cant put on fat. At the same time you can do 2 hours of cardio a day, but if you take in more cals than youre using then youve got just as much chance of putting on fat as the next guy.




 

 

[98.40_for_sure]

"Go hard or go home"