RIGHT NOW , HOW MUCH STUDY YOU DO A NIGHT??

[Duck]

As long as youve go the motivation to be successful youll probably find success one way or another.

Doing 'next to nothing' for study in Year 12 does not signify to me 'motivation to be successful'.

[Visionz]

As long as youve go the motivation to be successful youll probably find success one way or another.

Doing 'next to nothing' for study in Year 12 does not signify to me 'motivation to be successful'.

If he gets the study score he wants and gets into the course he wants then he has done what is necessary and can consider himself successful.
Not everyone has the capacity, nor the desire to do medicine, actuary or law.

[MBBS]

Pretty much nothing. Doing well in one subject and average to slightly above average in all the rest will get me into pretty much anything once the SA bonus points do their job, so there's no need to act as if VCE is the end of the world.

This is probably the most arrogant post I've ever read. I don't know what SA bonus points are but I hope that you get into nothing that you want to.

This is a disgraceful comment, if he's payed attention from years 7-10 and has maintained a reasonable level of study to find that the course he wants to do is one that he'll easily get into. Why should he bother studying?

To wish failure upon someone with a different study plan, you're an idiot.

[iffets12345]

^ as long as by saying "so there's no need to act as if VCE is the end of the world", he doesn't mean to intentionally undermine the efforts of others, I don't really care what he says. Just be aware that some people, who aren't naturally smart and need to work hard, might be offended by such nonchalant comments. But if your thing has a relatively low enter score to your standards, lol, you have a point Intronaut. To each his own!

[Duck]

So the intention of SEAS is so that some people don't have to study in order to get into their course while others work their asses off and don't get in?

[iffets12345]

^ To have qualified for SEAS, you went through something that disadvantaged you, which means you shouldn't need to have had as much demands from VCE as normal people, hence your ATAR requirements drop in accordance and understanding of your socio-economic/personal situation. Duck, I think you need to refrain from judging and  labelling him as someone who appears lazy and unconcerned. You don't know what makes this person qualify for SEAS and you can't psychoanalyze him from one sentence.

[Duck]

Then I will shift my attention to flaws in SEAS. If there is a single person who, as a result of SEAS, barely studies in year 12 and gets into their course then the system is critically and disgracefully flawed.

[Russ]

Yeah, god forbid that disadvantaged students get compensated for what they go through.

SEAS isn't to get you into your course without trying. You'll never know what benefit SEAS has to your score, it's just something that gets sent to the uni along with your application.

[iffets12345]

Then I will shift my attention to flaws in SEAS. If there is a single person who, as a result of SEAS, barely studies in year 12 and gets into their course then the system is critically and disgracefully flawed.

Duck you have a single spelling mistake in your essay. Oh dear, I'm afraid your 10/10 is now reduced to a 1. Pleaseeee stop =/

[Duck]

SEAS isn't to get you into your course without trying.

Pretty much nothing... will get me into pretty much anything once the SA bonus points do their job.

[Russ]

Depends entirely on the desired course, achieved ENTER and severity of circumstances.

"pretty much anything" can't be guaranteed just because you have a SEAS application.

[Duck]

Then it follows logically that his comment was arrogant.

[Russ]

Eh? No it doesn't, it'd be arrogant if he was saying he could sit back, do nothing and just get an offer. He said that he'd need to do achieve average marks and do well in one subject to get in.

And that's still no justification for wishing that he fails at everything

[MBBS]

In my opinion, I know from personal experience, I have a mate who has been studying his arse off for years now. He has decided he wants to do 'Forensic Science' or something akin to that. Nowadays he doesn't bother studying at all, he knows he'll comfortably get into his course, if I were in his position I'd do the same.

Regardless, to wish someone failure in this context is totally unjustifiable as 'Russ' stated. What he does is up to him, apathy is his decision, you have no right to comment.

[Duck]

I would rather someone who studied hard get into the course in place of him but I give up this argument is going in circles.