vce lote system completely screwed??

[onerealsmartass]

At school there is this chick who moved here from france earlier on in the year.
I thought that she was doing french as first language for some reasone then i asked her the other day and she said second language...
How does this happen? she is doing french as second language 3/4 in yr 11 and esl next yr....
And she said that the french oral was the easiest thing she has done

What a fail system... anyone else agree?

[vea]

The failure here isn't the system itself but the failure of not being able to track down that she should be doing first language.

[Whatlol]

i thought for french there is no SL/FL

[onerealsmartass]

i thought for french there is no SL/FL

yeah i heard that somewhere also, but if this were true wtf...

[TrueTears]

this happens all the time for chinese... even though there is 3 categories FL/SLA AND SL there is still so much corruption.

I had friends at my school last year having done high school in china and came here to do SLA, it happens too much.

[vea]

i thought for french there is no SL/FL

Just checked and this is actually the case. I guess in this situation it actually does show that the system is flawed :p

[IntoTheNewWorld]

VCE LOTE is broken in oh so many ways.

EDIT: I know someone who got 50 for French a few years ago. Turns out she came here from Switzerland recently =/

[onerealsmartass]

dammit! lol this chick is one of my rivals to get the highest enter/atar next year, and now she has a massive edge on me
looks like ill have to try and dominate jap, and possibly pick up spesh....

[zhenzhenzhen]

its so sick how so many people come from like china and do CSL and get a free 50 study score..

[Duck]

Ughh. Get over yourselves. If she does french SL then she's doing English first language, in which she has a disadvantage because English is her second language. As for those complaining about multilingual people getting an 'easy' 50, how dare they succeed in their education because they are more knowledgeable than us. It's not as if the purpose of assessment is to determine the most intelligent/knowledgeable students.

[tram]

Ughh. Get over yourselves. If she does french SL then she's doing English first language, in which she has a disadvantage because English is her second language. As for those complaining about multilingual people getting an 'easy' 50, how dare they succeed in their education because they are more knowledgeable than us. It's not as if the purpose of assessment is to determine the most intelligent/knowledgeable students.

i think the point is that she's also doing esl......

[Furbob]

I dont like how there's a girl at my school in yr 11 who was doing 3/4 japanese SL this year but then she somehow dropped out of it because she went on exchange to Japan - so next year she'll be joining my Jap class next year so we're all screwed + the fact that her mum is Japanese

[happyhappyland]

The scaling just screws everything... Chinese second language advanced shouldnt scale that much...honestly.. i have people are my school who did chinese in year 11 got a 45 raw, doing esl this year, but they are freakin pro at english probably gonna get a mid 40 atleast.

[Cianyx]

i thought for french there is no SL/FL

There isn't.

You people do know having a pro person in your class actually helps scale your score right? Unless you're gunning for that top spot

[Duck]

Forgive me for asking a stupid question but why exactly should people not be rewarded for being successful in their study of languages?