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Re: confusion
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2008, 08:36:39 pm »
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2008, 08:37:01 pm »
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I can't be bothered dealing with this argument. This girl is gonna fuck up. Cool?

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Re: confusion
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2008, 08:43:40 pm »
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Re: confusion
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2008, 08:52:50 pm »
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You guys don't even seem to understand how SACs work. If someone has rank 1 in SACs, and you don't, you better hope that person does well in the exams, otherwise that person is going to help drag your SAC marks down.

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Nevermind, I read the original post, and the poster seems to understand what's going on. Yes, it will hurt you, to answer your question. This side-argument seems pretty trivial though. Sure, SAC marks may be a good indicator for exam marks on average, but individual results can deviate (a residual), and if you have good reason to believe that this residual is biased (that is the expected value of this residual is not equal to zero), then yes, you may very well be right.
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Re: confusion
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2008, 08:59:37 pm »
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i just heard before if u r ranked 2nd in sacs and u get the top exam mark you become ranked 1 in sacs aswell, is this true?

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Re: confusion
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2008, 09:02:53 pm »
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Oh dang I get it.... is it that she is expecting you to get top marks in your exam so she can steal your score? That's the only thing I can think of... I mean it's VCE - people 'should' be studying harder than they do for past exams.

If I'm right that's just mean and shows how the VCE system is broken.

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Re: confusion
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2008, 09:05:42 pm »
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i just heard before if u r ranked 2nd in sacs and u get the top exam mark you become ranked 1 in sacs aswell, is this true?

Can you stop using 'u' and 'r' and also start capitalizing at the start of sentences. A forum post is not a text message.
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Re: confusion
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2008, 09:12:32 pm »
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Oh dang I get it.... is it that she is expecting you to get top marks in your exam so she can steal your score? That's the only thing I can think of... I mean it's VCE - people 'should' be studying harder than they do for past exams.

If I'm right that's just mean and shows how the VCE system is broken.

na its nothing like that. I think our VCE system needs some adjusting tho

i just heard before if u r ranked 2nd in sacs and u get the top exam mark you become ranked 1 in sacs aswell, is this true?

Can you stop using 'u' and 'r' and also start capitalizing at the start of sentences. A forum post is not a text message.

well u can still read it so y should i bother writing proper. if u dont like it dont open threads made from me

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Re: confusion
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2008, 09:57:37 pm »
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clinton, I don't think it is as simplistic as that. VCAA do not release their method to the public, but the general rule is that the SAC marks of the cohort are adjusted to match the exam marks of the cohort. It would not be fair to individuals in a cohort to apply a system where you match SAC rankings and exam rankings, and it doesn't achieve the primary goal of scaling the SACs. I trust VCAA enough to not get that wrong, at least.

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Re: confusion
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2008, 10:19:32 pm »
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i just heard before if u r ranked 2nd in sacs and u get the top exam mark you become ranked 1 in sacs aswell, is this true?

Can you stop using 'u' and 'r' and also start capitalizing at the start of sentences. A forum post is not a text message.

There was no need for that comment? It doesn't contribute one bit to the question that he is actually asking.

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i just heard before if u r ranked 2nd in sacs and u get the top exam mark you become ranked 1 in sacs aswell, is this true?
Yeah I have heard that too and it is really confusing.

For example: If I am ranked #2 SACs and ranked #1 in the Exam do I gain the SAC marks of the person who was ranked #1 in SACs?

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clinton, I don't think it is as simplistic as that. VCAA do not release their method to the public, but the general rule is that the SAC marks of the cohort are adjusted to match the exam marks of the cohort. It would not be fair to individuals in a cohort to apply a system where you match SAC rankings and exam rankings, and it doesn't achieve the primary goal of scaling the SACs. I trust VCAA enough to not get that wrong, at least.

So basically what I said is wrong? lol The whole system is screwed IMO
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Re: confusion
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2008, 10:31:12 pm »
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I think this is all turning into meaningless speculation. If we don't have accurate sources on how the VCAA determines study scores then we should stop talking about it.

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« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2008, 11:27:08 pm »
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I think this is all turning into meaningless speculation. If we don't have accurate sources on how the VCAA determines study scores then we should stop talking about it.

We gotta find out somehow
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Re: confusion
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2008, 12:53:18 am »
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I think this is all turning into meaningless speculation. If we don't have accurate sources on how the VCAA determines study scores then we should stop talking about it.
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/exams/statisticalmoderation/statmod.html

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Re: confusion
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2008, 07:07:33 pm »
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I think this is all turning into meaningless speculation. If we don't have accurate sources on how the VCAA determines study scores then we should stop talking about it.
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/exams/statisticalmoderation/statmod.html

Thanks Eriny, didn't know about that page. Looks like a good read!

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Re: confusion
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2008, 07:15:07 pm »
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i just heard before if u r ranked 2nd in sacs and u get the top exam mark you become ranked 1 in sacs aswell, is this true?

Can you stop using 'u' and 'r' and also start capitalizing at the start of sentences. A forum post is not a text message.

well u can still read it so y should i bother writing proper. if u dont like it dont open threads made from me
Nobody will force you to 'write proper', but you'd be amazed how much a few extra letters here and there changes others' opinions of you.
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