My rage at TSSM 2008

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Synonyms of voluntary as per dictionary.com

—Synonyms
1.  considered, purposeful, planned, intended, designed. See deliberate. 7.  free, unforced, natural, unconstrained. Voluntary, spontaneous  agree in applying to something that is a natural outgrowth or natural expression arising from circumstances and conditions. Voluntary  implies having given previous consideration, or having exercised judgment: a voluntary confession; a voluntary movement; The offer was a voluntary one.  Something that is spontaneous  arises as if by itself from the nature of the circumstances or condition: spontaneous applause, combustion, expression of admiration.

[Spreadbury]

man this is one of the biggest problems with psychology. overly pedantic. "you said deliberate. NO MARKS! *VCAA pimp slaps you with your own exam*"

[matt123]

man this is one of the biggest problems with psychology. overly pedantic. "you said deliberate. NO MARKS! *VCAA pimp slaps you with your own exam*"

Yeah agreed.

Excuse my fault before.
I looked in the gravias textbook and you are correct
it does mention deliberate.

Hmmm

Conclusion : .. you are correct ... and poorly written question

the other one though is good and straight forward.


Good questions
keep em up

[Glockmeister]

if the behaviour is neither conscious nor deliberate then it could hardly be described as 'active' could it?

also through my reading, the grivas textbook stated that phobias are classically conditioned, not operantly conditioned.

Phobia relies on both classical conditioning and operant conditioning - the initial gaining of the fear response is classically trained, but the unwillingness to actually complete that activity that creates fear is actually an operant conditioning.

The thing that you have to understand is that whilst you can get active behaviour that is also deliberate (as was the case with the rats), it is logically fallacious to then conclude that deliberate behaviour is also active behaviour.

The reason the word active is the answer is one, that's actually used in the original definition of operant made by Skinner (1953) himself, "active behavior that operates upon the environment to generate consequences" and number two not all behaviours that are operantly conditioned are deliberate behaviours, as I've said with autism and phobia treat, unless of course, you're willing to argue that the symptoms exhibited by those with autism are some how deliberate behaviours, and that people with autism have some sort of conscious control over their behaviour. Why active then? Well active means that you are doing something, there's no implication about any conscious control (e.g. you can be actively throwing up, this does not necessarily mean that you are deliberately throwing up).

It might seem pedantic, but it is very important that you are precise about your definitions, otherwise you can easily use psychology to justify any sort of behaviour - moving psychology into pseudoscience territory.

[Chromeo33]

if the behaviour is neither conscious nor deliberate then it could hardly be described as 'active' could it?

also through my reading, the grivas textbook stated that phobias are classically conditioned, not operantly conditioned.

Phobia relies on both classical conditioning and operant conditioning - the initial gaining of the fear response is classically trained, but the unwillingness to actually complete that activity that creates fear is actually an operant conditioning.

The thing that you have to understand is that whilst you can get active behaviour that is also deliberate (as was the case with the rats), it is logically fallacious to then conclude that deliberate behaviour is also active behaviour.

The reason the word active is the answer is one, that's actually used in the original definition of operant made by Skinner (1953) himself, "active behavior that operates upon the environment to generate consequences" and number two not all behaviours that are operantly conditioned are deliberate behaviours, as I've said with autism and phobia treat, unless of course, you're willing to argue that the symptoms exhibited by those with autism are some how deliberate behaviours, and that people with autism have some sort of conscious control over their behaviour. Why active then? Well active means that you are doing something, there's no implication about any conscious control (e.g. you can be actively throwing up, this does not necessarily mean that you are deliberately throwing up).

It might seem pedantic, but it is very important that you are precise about your definitions, otherwise you can easily use psychology to justify any sort of behaviour - moving psychology into pseudoscience territory.

Dude, you're smart

[Spreadbury]

autism is an operantly conditioned behaviour? how? (curious, not skeptical)