IS THIS RIGHT? I THINK ITS WRONG?

[sillysmile]

I couldn't find my textbook, I apologize...
haha, I haven't used it in about 2 or 3 months.

[Slumdawg]

so the antecedent is just the stimulus presented before the response in CC?

Antecedent is only used in terms of operant conditioning not classical.

It is just the "trigger" for the response. So the antecedent with the puzzle box is the actual box (as being contained inside a box made the cat want to get out) and the lever I'd assume...

[Spreadbury]

the UCS is just a stimulus that elicits a naturally occurring, automatic response (the UCR)... it's not reinforcement.

[sillysmile]

I don't want to start another argument, but the UCS is not a reinforcer of any kind.

while it sounds silly , my textbook says that it is a reinforcer...
I must maintain that it sounds silly...

because the UCS must be associated with CS in order for the CR to consistently recur. (otherwise the CR will become extinguished)

[jinny1]

I get you shilayli06...

my problem is in my A+ book... tells me CC is characterized by antecedents events, while it speaks nothing of antecedents in OC...

pg. 61

[Slumdawg]

I couldn't find my textbook, I apologize...
haha, I haven't used it in about 2 or 3 months.

The heinemann textbook doesn't have the ABC model in it, just checked again.

[sillysmile]

I couldn't find my textbook, I apologize...
haha, I haven't used it in about 2 or 3 months.

The heinemann textbook doesn't have the ABC model in it, just checked again.

oh, well I must have learnt that somewhere else then :S

[jinny1]

guys if i wrote in an exam...

" In CC, the reinforcer/reinforcement/stimulus is presented before the response, whereas in OC, the reinforcer/reinforcement/stimulus is presented after the response"

would i be correct??

thats all im kinda worried about

[sillysmile]

guys if i wrote in an exam...

" In CC, the reinforcer/reinforcement/stimulus is presented before the response, whereas in OC, the reinforcer/reinforcement/stimulus is presented after the response"

would i be correct??

thats all im kinda worried about

hahahaha, man this has become incredibly confusing and insane...

[Slumdawg]

I get you shilayli06...

my problem is in my A+ book... tells me CC is characterized by antecedents events, while it speaks nothing of antecedents in OC...

pg. 61

Yep I just checked it then. The definition of antecedent in general is "a thing or event that precedes another". So you could substitute "proceeding" with that sentence in A+ notes to avoid confusion.

I also see they've referred to CC and the ABC model which is strange because it was devised by Skinner who is best known for operant conditioning and I've always been taught that ABC model = operant. I guess you could use it for classical conditioning but I wouldn't, it gets too confusing and it was originally intended to be used to explain operant conditioning no classical..

[Spreadbury]

guys if i wrote in an exam...

" In CC, the reinforcer/reinforcement/stimulus is presented before the response, whereas in OC, the reinforcer/reinforcement/stimulus is presented after the response"

would i be correct??

thats all im kinda worried about

for operant condtitioning do not say that the "stimulus" is presented after the response, say "reinforcement (and/or) punishment," try to be specific. and for classical conditioning say "the CS (and/or) UCS is presented before the response" and you should be golden. I would steer clear of saying 'reinforcement' for Classical conditioning as i've never come across it being used for CC

[jinny1]

we shud call up Glockmeister

[Spreadbury]

we shud call up Glockmeister

he doesn't like answering the Glock-phone. and if you show up at the Glock-cave he's always drunk and angry (inside joke anyone?)

[Slumdawg]

I couldn't find my textbook, I apologize...
haha, I haven't used it in about 2 or 3 months.

The heinemann textbook doesn't have the ABC model in it, just checked again.

oh, well I must have learnt that somewhere else then :S

Yer I only know it cos my teacher randomly explained it from the top of her head.. Guessing it's from the old study design or something..

[sillysmile]

we shud call up Glockmeister

he doesn't like answering the Glock-phone. and if you show up at the Glock-cave he's always drunk and angry (inside joke anyone?)

haha true..