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Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« on: November 03, 2010, 12:28:34 am »
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Hey all,
I don't get any of these sorts of problems. At all... I understand them graphically but I can't work them out.

Please explain question 1 of the exam provided here:
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,31451.msg330322.html#msg330322

Thanks :)

This discriminant is completely new to me, I can't find this in any textbooks that I have.

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Re: Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 12:31:07 am »
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Re: Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 12:44:05 am »
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Sorry, I don't follow the explanation. I'm really not a maths person :/

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Re: Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 07:30:53 am »
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First step is to always find the determinant of the coefficient matrix:



When , there is a unique solution (since the inverse exists)

When , there is either no solution OR infinitely many solutions.

We can't go any further with the determinant, so the next thing to do is manually plug in and see what happens.



Now notice that the following ratios are equal (this will always be the case when the determinant is zero and all coefficients are non-zero). What this means is, if you multiply equation 1 by a factor of , the left hand side will look the same as equation 2:



From here, it becomes trivial. There are infinite solutions if , and there are no solutions if .
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Consider another example:



Then,





Unique solution if , infinite or no solution if . Now, when you can simply do what we did before to find the appropriate values of :



In this case the LHSs are already equal, so infinite solutions, no solutions.

However, when , the LHS of the bottom equation becomes 0:



This is actually simpler than before, now you only need to look at the bottom equation. If , there are infinite solutions, and if there are no solutions.

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Re: Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 12:34:11 pm »
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Arrr thanks heaps /0! Your second example makes it make a lot more sense. Thansk heaps!

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Re: Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 01:50:14 pm »
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We can't go any further with the determinant

Plugging in that value of 'p', solving for y and making another determinent to get the 'q' value works for me

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Re: Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 02:11:16 pm »
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infinite solutions = same equation

no solutions = parallel, with a different c (y=mx +c )

1 solution = Anything else :)

Much better than stupid time consuming matrix methods.
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Re: Linear eqn - no soln, unique soln, inf soln - wah!?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 02:21:12 pm »
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Taiga, yep I knew that much! I understand that idea behind it, but working out the numbers behind it I struggled with ;)