Just to keep things in perspective, guys, apparently the median/mean last year for paper 2 was 44 or something. So predicting low 30s for people with mid 60s is a bit absurd, especially considering the A+ cut off will be very, very low 60s or high 50s.
And did that many people really get above 70? Most people I know didn't attempt everything on the paper, guessed a lot or got a lot wrong. And most of my friends are pretty good at maths... I'd say that above 70 on that paper would be in the top few percent at the very lowest.
Whilst difficulty does fluctuate, I doubt the cutoff will be that low.
Generally Losing 8+ marks on Exam 2 and 4+ marks on Exam 1 is a low 40.
I glanced through the exam, and it was comparable in difficulty to VCAA 2007. A rough Study Score can easily be predicted by previous reports.
And I don't think you can judge the performance of the entire state just by asking those around you - exam fatigue and over-speculation are generally rife immediately after the exam. . .
Everyone I know outside of VN dropped a lot of marks. Most left slabs of the paper blank. I go to Mac.Rob and have a few MHS friends, so even though exam fatigue was rife, I'm pretty sure that when some of the top ranked students at my school (for overall academic excellence) don't finish a paper, it can be considered difficult. When many people see questions they're not familiar with, they panic. That's what happened in the exam. I think it's pretty hard for someone to judge without having done it in exam conditions. Apparently 08 had a cut off of about 64 or 65, and it was miles more difficult. I've done 07 and I found it more difficult. Everyone I spoke to found it more difficult than Kilbaha. Perhaps some of the top scores will be dominated by maths olympiad campers, but for the majority of the cohort, it wasn't a good paper. I would be very surprised if it's on par with the 2007 cut off, because the questions on 2007 were slightly more complicated versions of standard problems.
I'ld have to agree with Appianway here.
Coming from a school which gets 112 students getting scores above 40 for methods (out of ~300 methods students), there were very few people coming out of that with smiley faces, when the guy said you may leave it was just a huge groan. I would easily say that way more than 1 in 3 of the boys lost more than 10 marks, and given those 1 in 3 should statistically be receiving A+ marks according to previous years, it would indicate that this paper was much more difficult than any previous years.
Will it be lower than 2007? Personally, I would like to think so in interest of my own score and that for my peers. I do think this was more difficult conceptually with the last three parts of the final question, the expected value, and the very last portion of the pyramid part, add on about 2 multichoice questions which were difficult. That would make me think that the cutoff would be at least 5 lower than that of 2007.
However there are factors like 2007 CAS being a rather new concept, and the fact that our company exam papers are based off these previous exams, which makes 2007 look comparatively easier to us. That's why i think the cutoff mark will be around the same as that in 07, so you would be looking at losing 8-10 marks for a 44+ and about 3-4 marks for the big 50. This is taking into account that exam 1 was very easy given that students are officially confirmed to have been awarded consequential marks for the "cone of death".
If it's relevant, I full marked 07, got 76/80 for 08, and 68/80 for 09 (after cramming 16 exams into the weekend), and probably 70-74 for this one.