Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

November 01, 2025, 10:52:34 am

Author Topic: EXAM 2010 Opinions  (Read 34214 times)  Share 

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

ben92

  • Guest
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #180 on: November 10, 2010, 04:12:09 pm »
0
Question 3 MC
He says a keyboard swipe doesn't exist, but what's this? http://www.google.com.au/images?q=keyboard%20swipe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1028&bih=869. It looks like a mobile keyboard an unauthorised user would type his password into. Furthermore, his answer, CCTV, wouldn't have the video quality to see what was occurring on a screen. It might not even be facing the screen and would almost definitely be too far away, and its view may be even covered by the hacker 's body too.

Lol I think those images are just for android phones? which is keyboard swype?

The fact remains that it exists. In any case, I think the other options are bogus. Come to think of it, it might be encryption software if you're talking about *file* encryption software which can place passwords on files (e.g. WinRAR.)

chopz

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 112
  • Respect: +1
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #181 on: November 10, 2010, 04:15:21 pm »
0
yeah im pretty sure tif, is a image file.
2009 - Further Maths (37) , Cisco Semester 1&2 (Pass)
2010 - English (35+) Methods CAS (35~) IT APPS (40+) IT SD (40+)

SixWinged

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 105
  • Respect: +1
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #182 on: November 10, 2010, 04:16:29 pm »
0
Question 3 MC
He says a keyboard swipe doesn't exist, but what's this? http://www.google.com.au/images?q=keyboard%20swipe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1028&bih=869. It looks like a mobile keyboard an unauthorised user would type his password into. Furthermore, his answer, CCTV, wouldn't have the video quality to see what was occurring on a screen. It might not even be facing the screen and would almost definitely be too far away, and its view may be even covered by the hacker 's body too.

Lol I think those images are just for android phones? which is keyboard swype?

The fact remains that it exists. In any case, I think the other options are bogus. Come to think of it, it might be encryption software if you're talking about *file* encryption software which can place passwords on files (e.g. WinRAR.)

It wanted to detect, not prevent. All of the other options, including a swipe-card (or keyboard swipe lolwut?) are methods of preventing. A CCTV feed will physically show the person watching it that there is an intruder, and hence they have "detected" him/her.
Specialist [41], Methods [42], English [44], Chemistry [45], Physics [46], IT Applications [47], Further [48]
2010 ATAR: 99.45, congrats to the VCENotes class of 2010 :)
2011: Commerce/Engineering@Monash. Keen to tutor VCE students next year in any of the above subjects except English and IT, feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions relating to those subjects, probably won't be on this site often now, but PMs go to my email.

wrendogga

  • Victorian
  • Adventurer
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Respect: 0
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #183 on: November 10, 2010, 04:17:04 pm »
0
]I think Mark made a few mistakes, although I'm sure these were typos:

Question 3 MC
He says a keyboard swipe doesn't exist, but what's this? http://www.google.com.au/images?q=keyboard%20swipe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1028&bih=869. It looks like a mobile keyboard an unauthorised user would type his password into. Furthermore, his answer, CCTV, wouldn't have the video quality to see what was occurring on a screen. It might not even be facing the screen and would almost definitely be too far away, and its view may be even covered by the hacker 's body too.


I agree. The question says "The best equipment to detect unauthorised access to a password-protected file would be"
Unless you have a very attentive person watching the CCTV footage, and unless the intruder was wearing an outfit that stands-out or looks different on CCTV (generally poor quality definition), then I would think a swipe card would detect the unauthorised access more accurately....... very hard to know though....
Then again, unless they used an invalid card, they wouldn't be detected (or they may have just stolen a swipe card)????? Dunno....

mattrossi1

  • Guest
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #184 on: November 10, 2010, 04:20:02 pm »
0
I guess we interpret things differently :D

Mark Kelly haha, "Ask themselves if they are feeling uncomfortable because of an ethical quandary, or whether it was just the curry they had for lunch."

Yeahhh.. I don't think he likes the exam much :P

"Hey, I like the way you don't let morality stand in the way of profit. Can I buy shares in your company?" lol

I also liked the suggestion for the IT workers to "ask their mothers"...  It sounds pretty apt for a section of the IT industry :P

I wrote down that the IT workers should not worry about it unless the work is illegal.  Really, in that case study, you are a client of the business Cheryl works for, and when you are in that situation, you have to do what the company wants, not always what you think is best.  Having said that, the IT workers have a responsibility to ensure that what they are doing is legal, and to avoid any illegal activity.

Mark Kelly got Question 11a wrong?

i put =(G6-B6)

because it asks for the weeks growth compared to the week before? he just adds them all...

Yeah, thats what I wrote.

Same here.  He is wrong because C6:G6 tracked the height of the plants, not the difference in height.  Even if you missed the column headers, you could tell that by looking at the data in H6.  15 is definitely not the sum of CG:G6...

Good exam though, quite challenging, disappointed about the lack of VLOOKUPS, (REPLACED with a nested IF wtf?!?? was not expecting that one D: ) and lack of questions on laws.

Haha same here.

I think Mark made a few mistakes, although I'm sure these were typos:

Question 11 MC
He says PDFs aren't image files, yet the answer he gives (D) includes pdf. I think he meant to say C.

Yep, well spotted there.

Question 16 MC
He says they're links between common primary keys, yet many of the fields he links weren't primary keys. They were unique and *could have* been primary keys, but they didn't feature the key symbol beside them. His answer was A, but I think it should have been B.

I picked A because all the relationships were either one to many or many to one, but I think you have a point there...

Question 3 MC
He says a keyboard swipe doesn't exist, but what's this? http://www.google.com.au/images?q=keyboard%20swipe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1028&bih=869. It looks like a mobile keyboard an unauthorised user would type his password into. Furthermore, his answer, CCTV, wouldn't have the video quality to see what was occurring on a screen. It might not even be facing the screen and would almost definitely be too far away, and its view may be even covered by the hacker 's body too.
Ooo, good find, though I find it odd that the exam writers would refer to such a relatively obscure technology that none of us have really ever heard of.  I do agree that CCTV would not be accurate for the purpose, and the other methods do not make any sense.  I suppose we'll have to wait for the examiner's report on that one...

Bomb505

  • Victorian
  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 25
  • Respect: 0
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #185 on: November 10, 2010, 04:20:57 pm »
0
According to Kelly, I lost around 10 marks in all. Most of them on that Chef question.

P.S. My IT teacher said that MC Question 3 might be taken out of the exam, apparently many teachers cannot even agree on a single answer.
2009:
 - Agriculture and Horticulture [30]
2010:
 - English [~27]
 - Maths Methods [~31]
 - Physics [~34]
 - IT Applications [~35]
 - ATAR [Needed: 76.00, Ideal: 79.00]

ben92

  • Guest
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #186 on: November 10, 2010, 04:23:30 pm »
0
Question 3 MC
He says a keyboard swipe doesn't exist, but what's this? http://www.google.com.au/images?q=keyboard%20swipe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1028&bih=869. It looks like a mobile keyboard an unauthorised user would type his password into. Furthermore, his answer, CCTV, wouldn't have the video quality to see what was occurring on a screen. It might not even be facing the screen and would almost definitely be too far away, and its view may be even covered by the hacker 's body too.

Lol I think those images are just for android phones? which is keyboard swype?

The fact remains that it exists. In any case, I think the other options are bogus. Come to think of it, it might be encryption software if you're talking about *file* encryption software which can place passwords on files (e.g. WinRAR.)

It wanted to detect, not prevent. All of the other options, including a swipe-card (or keyboard swipe lolwut?) are methods of preventing. A CCTV feed will physically show the person watching it that there is an intruder, and hence they have "detected" him/her.

You've presumed 'detect' is in the past tense. You can 'detect' things as they happen, too.

chopz

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 112
  • Respect: +1
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #187 on: November 10, 2010, 04:25:11 pm »
0
sweet!
2009 - Further Maths (37) , Cisco Semester 1&2 (Pass)
2010 - English (35+) Methods CAS (35~) IT APPS (40+) IT SD (40+)

SixWinged

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 105
  • Respect: +1
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #188 on: November 10, 2010, 04:35:49 pm »
0
Question 3 MC
He says a keyboard swipe doesn't exist, but what's this? http://www.google.com.au/images?q=keyboard%20swipe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1028&bih=869. It looks like a mobile keyboard an unauthorised user would type his password into. Furthermore, his answer, CCTV, wouldn't have the video quality to see what was occurring on a screen. It might not even be facing the screen and would almost definitely be too far away, and its view may be even covered by the hacker 's body too.

Lol I think those images are just for android phones? which is keyboard swype?

The fact remains that it exists. In any case, I think the other options are bogus. Come to think of it, it might be encryption software if you're talking about *file* encryption software which can place passwords on files (e.g. WinRAR.)

It wanted to detect, not prevent. All of the other options, including a swipe-card (or keyboard swipe lolwut?) are methods of preventing. A CCTV feed will physically show the person watching it that there is an intruder, and hence they have "detected" him/her.

You've presumed 'detect' is in the past tense. You can 'detect' things as they happen, too.

CCTV is real-time and present. What would a swipe card do to help you detect? It could be argued that you can "detect" someone trying to enter without a swipe-card I guess, but I made the assumption that the intruder has stolen someone's swipe card or something similar, in which the swipe-card system would do nothing. Similar logic crosses out the other two options.
Specialist [41], Methods [42], English [44], Chemistry [45], Physics [46], IT Applications [47], Further [48]
2010 ATAR: 99.45, congrats to the VCENotes class of 2010 :)
2011: Commerce/Engineering@Monash. Keen to tutor VCE students next year in any of the above subjects except English and IT, feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions relating to those subjects, probably won't be on this site often now, but PMs go to my email.

ttn

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 331
  • Respect: 0
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #189 on: November 10, 2010, 04:38:38 pm »
0
According to Kelly, I lost around 10 marks in all. Most of them on that Chef question.

P.S. My IT teacher said that MC Question 3 might be taken out of the exam, apparently many teachers cannot even agree on a single answer.

Would be awesome if this was true, would give me 19/19.
2010: IT: Applications [43]
2011: English [34], Methods [42], Spesh [38], Chemistry [32], Physics [46]

ATAR: 97.45

chopz

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 112
  • Respect: +1
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #190 on: November 10, 2010, 04:40:20 pm »
0
According to Kelly, I lost around 10 marks in all. Most of them on that Chef question.

P.S. My IT teacher said that MC Question 3 might be taken out of the exam, apparently many teachers cannot even agree on a single answer.

pretty sure they just give everyone the mark..
Would be awesome if this was true, would give me 19/19.
2009 - Further Maths (37) , Cisco Semester 1&2 (Pass)
2010 - English (35+) Methods CAS (35~) IT APPS (40+) IT SD (40+)

ben92

  • Guest
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #191 on: November 10, 2010, 04:41:19 pm »
0
Question 3 MC
He says a keyboard swipe doesn't exist, but what's this? http://www.google.com.au/images?q=keyboard%20swipe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1028&bih=869. It looks like a mobile keyboard an unauthorised user would type his password into. Furthermore, his answer, CCTV, wouldn't have the video quality to see what was occurring on a screen. It might not even be facing the screen and would almost definitely be too far away, and its view may be even covered by the hacker 's body too.

Lol I think those images are just for android phones? which is keyboard swype?

The fact remains that it exists. In any case, I think the other options are bogus. Come to think of it, it might be encryption software if you're talking about *file* encryption software which can place passwords on files (e.g. WinRAR.)

It wanted to detect, not prevent. All of the other options, including a swipe-card (or keyboard swipe lolwut?) are methods of preventing. A CCTV feed will physically show the person watching it that there is an intruder, and hence they have "detected" him/her.

You've presumed 'detect' is in the past tense. You can 'detect' things as they happen, too.

CCTV is real-time and present. What would a swipe card do to help you detect? It could be argued that you can "detect" someone trying to enter without a swipe-card I guess, but I made the assumption that the intruder has stolen someone's swipe card or something similar, in which the swipe-card system would do nothing. Similar logic crosses out the other two options.

It wasn't a swipe card - it was a keyboard swipe (google image search it - it's a recently developed electronic keyboard).

SixWinged

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 105
  • Respect: +1
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #192 on: November 10, 2010, 04:44:06 pm »
0
It wasn't a swipe card - it was a keyboard swipe (google image search it - it's a recently developed electronic keyboard).

From the google image search you provided I determined that they're referring to the keyboards with built in swipe-card components. The digital keyboard is a software keyboard for android phones called "Swype" which is completely irrelevant to the question as it is simply a method of entering text by "swiping" across the letters without removing your finger from the screen....
Specialist [41], Methods [42], English [44], Chemistry [45], Physics [46], IT Applications [47], Further [48]
2010 ATAR: 99.45, congrats to the VCENotes class of 2010 :)
2011: Commerce/Engineering@Monash. Keen to tutor VCE students next year in any of the above subjects except English and IT, feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions relating to those subjects, probably won't be on this site often now, but PMs go to my email.

ben92

  • Guest
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #193 on: November 10, 2010, 04:46:36 pm »
0
It wasn't a swipe card - it was a keyboard swipe (google image search it - it's a recently developed electronic keyboard).

From the google image search you provided I determined that they're referring to the keyboards with built in swipe-card components. The digital keyboard is a software keyboard for android phones called "Swype" which is completely irrelevant to the question as it is simply a method of entering text by "swiping" across the letters without removing your finger from the screen....

It's one letter's difference - the brand wrote 'y' to sell it, the actual technology would be called wipe I presume. In either cases, the other options are completely bogus aside from maybe encryption software if it meant offline file encryption like WinRAR.

In either case, no one got this question right, and if they did it was a guess.

wrendogga

  • Victorian
  • Adventurer
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Respect: 0
Re: EXAM 2010 Opinions
« Reply #194 on: November 10, 2010, 04:47:55 pm »
0
If you want to see a keyboard swipe in action, just visit your local bank branch. Pretty sure they use something similar to that suggested by Google (and I don't mean an ATM/EFTPOS type machine, an actual keyboard with a swiping part on it.)