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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #120 on: November 11, 2010, 11:26:51 pm »
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They obviously weren't looking for that approach as it yields two answers..

The was I looked at it was A-factor of 2; B-factor of 2; C-no change; D - reduce by a factor of 4. Clearly the one which has undergone the biggest 'change' is D.

I don't really get how you looked at it =| But they asked for the 'percentage change in the concentration fraction', so wouldn't a change in the denominator of Q (as in D) affect it less than the same change in the numerator of Q (such as A)?
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #121 on: November 12, 2010, 01:08:34 am »
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With question 2.2ai, when calculating Ka, do we include liquids? If not, then I don't think we include the molarity of the Lactic acid
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #122 on: November 12, 2010, 10:13:53 am »
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Thanks a lot for this Mao.  :)
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #123 on: November 12, 2010, 11:18:50 am »
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Thanks Mao for posting this up. Wasn't sure if I should go through and see how many marks I lost, but I just couldn't resist the temptation. Just a quick question.... The first Q of section 2, do we have to put M^2 next to the conc. fraction? (I was thinking.. maybe I should, but then, thought it's only a one mark question, so thought I'd get away with it!)

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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #124 on: November 12, 2010, 11:23:23 am »
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With question 1.b.iii where methane and hydrogen are "burned", is that the same as combustion?

Because I assumed it was so I wrote down that

CH4 + 2 O2 → CO2 + 2 H2O and
2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O

Therefore, the answer for the volume of hydrogen needed would be double the volume that Mao has given (12.4 L)
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #125 on: November 12, 2010, 11:32:12 am »
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With question 1.b.iii where methane and hydrogen are "burned", is that the same as combustion?

Because I assumed it was so I wrote down that

CH4 + 2 O2 → CO2 + 2 H2O and
2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O

Therefore, the answer for the volume of hydrogen needed would be double the volume that Mao has given (12.4 L)

Yeah, burning = combustion but I don't get your logic. Are you saying that the volume needs to double because there is a coefficient of 2 in front of hydrogen...?

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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #126 on: November 12, 2010, 11:35:14 am »
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Yes :-\
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #127 on: November 12, 2010, 11:39:39 am »
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I have a question too
for the lithium + water equation i mind blanked and wrote this

is this wrong??
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #128 on: November 12, 2010, 11:48:49 am »
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Yes :-\

Oh, okay. Now I get you. But you don't need to worry about that. All you need to do is get the required energy that needs to be produced by burning hydrogen. Then, divide that by 286 which gives you the no. of mole of H2 you need which can be used to find the required volume (Just like Mao has shown in his solution) because 286 is for 1 mole of H2 burnt. Hope I make some sense!

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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #129 on: November 12, 2010, 11:53:18 am »
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I have a question too
for the lithium + water equation i mind blanked and wrote this

is this wrong??

well.. it definitely isn't 'wrong'. It just isn't simplified as such. You just have the two ions combined to get 2LiOH! Doubt you will lost marks, the significance of this Q was to show that H2 is formed -> high pressure -> explosion.

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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #130 on: November 12, 2010, 11:55:32 am »
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I have a question too
for the lithium + water equation i mind blanked and wrote this

is this wrong??

well.. it definitely isn't 'wrong'. It just isn't simplified as such. You just have the two ions combined to get 2LiOH! Doubt you will lost marks, the significance of this Q was to show that H2 is formed -> high pressure -> explosion.
Ok so if my reaction is 'technically' right i should get the marks??
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #131 on: November 12, 2010, 01:15:44 pm »
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one would hope so. I did the same thing, and just said gas is evolved very quickly, thus potential for kabooom

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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #132 on: November 12, 2010, 01:43:39 pm »
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would that question be 2 for the equation and 1 for why it exploded, or the other way around
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #133 on: November 12, 2010, 01:46:35 pm »
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would that question be 2 for the equation and 1 for why it exploded, or the other way around

Yeah, that sounds right. I dunno how they could give two for explosion..
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Re: 2010 VCAA Chemistry U4 Suggested solutions
« Reply #134 on: November 12, 2010, 03:43:05 pm »
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would that question be 2 for the equation and 1 for why it exploded, or the other way around

Yeah, that sounds right. I dunno how they could give two for explosion..

I said both of hydrogen gas is highly flammable/explosive and high pressure due to build up of hydrogen gas could lead to an explosion.
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