2010 EXAM THOUGHTS

[burbs]

Oh yeah, that statement wasn't about kotter.

[luken93]

Oh yeah, that statement wasn't about kotter.

Yes I understand.

This thread is beginning to make less sense than the exam itself haha

[burbs]

Yeah i blame it on me being more vague than VCAA '10

[luken93]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

[luken93]

Yeah i blame it on me being more vague than VCAA '10

nah, this is what VCAA 2010 has done to us all!
It's made us go bonkers!

[burbs]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

Yeah i think that's what the conference was, but the second part was due to parent marking at the time, so it was a comment on what they'd seen so far.

[8039]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

Yes if people actually studied the material and did at least 3 practice exams they would know how to go. I don't see what all the fuss is about... especially with Kotter thing... I guess people are just sooking.

[luken93]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

Yeah i think that's what the conference was, but the second part was due to parent marking at the time, so it was a comment on what they'd seen so far.

Aaahk, as long as mine wasn't in that pile haha

BTW, how much do they get paid to mark exams?

[burbs]

You know, the 2000-2004 exams prepared me for the last question well. I hope people actually listened when I said do them. They had the same structure as exam + had 10 markers on change but not kotter.

[burbs]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

Yeah i think that's what the conference was, but the second part was due to parent marking at the time, so it was a comment on what they'd seen so far.

Aaahk, as long as mine wasn't in that pile haha

BTW, how much do they get paid to mark exams?

$2?

[luken93]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

Yes if people actually studied the material and did at least 3 practice exams they would know how to go. I don't see what all the fuss is about... especially with Kotter thing... I guess people are just sooking.

Hmmm well I did 15 practice exams (incl all VCAA), and I don't think I had seen many similar to those questions on any of them. You're definitely right about Kotter though, because basically every school prepared kids for it, the general population of BM students are/were too receptive of the change in question, and didn't adapt to the needs of the question, although the higher level students would've. That is where the line is drawn between the weaker and stronger students...
I could go on but otherwise this thread will continue around in circles haha

[8039]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

Yes if people actually studied the material and did at least 3 practice exams they would know how to go. I don't see what all the fuss is about... especially with Kotter thing... I guess people are just sooking.

Hmmm well I did 15 practice exams (incl all VCAA), and I don't think I had seen many similar to those questions on any of them. You're definitely right about Kotter though, because basically every school prepared kids for it, the general population of BM students are/were too receptive of the change in question, and didn't adapt to the needs of the question, although the higher level students would've. That is where the line is drawn between the weaker and stronger students...
I could go on but otherwise this thread will continue around in circles haha

There were a few tricky one's I'll admit... when I first read management function I was like 'wtf'. But more than half the questions were about management strategies and KPI's which are a favorite of VCAA. I too remember how strongly my teacher emphasized about Kotter's theory being on this paper (as opposed to Lewin's). I'm actually happy I didn't have to rewrite all those damn steps all over again

[luken93]

So was the conference for the marking guide (marking criteria for all assessors?)

And all that they said is that on average students were pretty bad?
But thinking about it, those who have a decent knowledge probably wouldn't be affected too much by the weird questions as opposed to *weaker* students, hence the A+ / Top 10% of kid's marks wouldn't really have a huge range compared to that of other years?

Yes if people actually studied the material and did at least 3 practice exams they would know how to go. I don't see what all the fuss is about... especially with Kotter thing... I guess people are just sooking.

Hmmm well I did 15 practice exams (incl all VCAA), and I don't think I had seen many similar to those questions on any of them. You're definitely right about Kotter though, because basically every school prepared kids for it, the general population of BM students are/were too receptive of the change in question, and didn't adapt to the needs of the question, although the higher level students would've. That is where the line is drawn between the weaker and stronger students...
I could go on but otherwise this thread will continue around in circles haha

There were a few tricky one's I'll admit... when I first read management function I was like 'wtf'. But more than half the questions were about management strategies and KPI's which are a favorite of VCAA. I too remember how strongly my teacher emphasized about Kotter's theory being on this paper (as opposed to Lewin's). I'm actually happy I didn't have to rewrite all those damn steps all over again

Totally agree. Only 29 days!

[burbs]

I did a lot (not going to say how many ) and can safely say, was still shocked that the questions were mostly original. However VCAA 2000-2004 had similar structure and 10 markers on change, one of which was the same topic?

[jsher098]

cmonnn say how many
I did 35 in total and yes the 2000-2004 were very helpful.