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Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« on: November 18, 2010, 11:28:27 pm »
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So the school I'm from has pretty low standards compared to the schools most of you come from. Dux last year from our school was a 96 and a 93 enter or somewhere around there. Don't think anyone else got over 90 so yeah.

I was wondering if its possible to achieve good results at this school as long as you work. Personally, I think the teachers are very caring and they try to do their best to help the students but its mostly the students who don't want to learn. Would this be a bad learning environment? And would the class performing badly on the exams lower the better students' scores?

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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2010, 11:35:05 pm »
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Well if you can ignore the negative attitudes of the majority of students and put your head down and study hard... I'm sure you'll do well.

I'm in the same boat. Only 5% of my school's year 12 cohorts get over 90. BUT, last year the dux got a 99.80 with 50s in Accounting, Further and Psych. This surprised everyone... not only because of the fact that a 99.80 was achievable in a school like ours, but also the fact that 'easy' subjects like those could translate into a really high ATAR.

Check my profile to see which school I go to.

EDIT: If you are ranked first in terms of SACs, and perform the best on exams, you won't be affected by the cohort's performance.

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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2010, 11:36:56 pm »
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It is kind of hard to ignore though don't you think?
Considering that everyone you know at the school doesn't really care much although my group of friends are probably aiming to do decently well.

Anyway thanks for the pointer :D

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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2010, 11:52:10 pm »
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Just ensure that you have #1 Sac rankings and that you study as well as you can for your subjects. The rest is out of your hands -but you should know, that a smart student will succeed regardless of the school he/she attends. Buckle down, stay motivated, and have clear goals. The rest is luck.
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2010, 11:53:22 pm »
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I've been thinking about this for a while...

When I enrolled at Eltham in Year Seven it was a really successful school, but over the last three years I've just seen some of the dumbest Year12's ever, with seriously less than 5% caring all year, especially this year's which I know are going to have terrible results. I've had a chat with my Englang teacher who's my mentor, and she feels the same way I do about recent students, but maintains that if you put in the hardwork there's nothing to stop you from succeeding in ascertaining any ENTER you want.
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 11:56:55 pm »
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My school cared about football more than anything related to academia. I'll have to wait until results day to see how much my cohort affected my results but yeah it does have a negative effect on your learning and the environment is disadvantageous compared to those of other schools. Quality of teaching, availability of assistance, strength of peers and fairness of internal assessment are all quite detrimental in the long run.
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 12:05:38 am »
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Yeah its kind of hard to obtain resources and things like that from a school with no students who really care but I guess in the long run it is easier to rank 1 :)

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2010, 12:07:56 am »
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Yeah its kind of hard to obtain resources and things like that from a school with no students who really care but I guess in the long run it is easier to rank 1 :)

Rather be rank 50 at a good school than rank 1 at a crappy school... also teachers *may* chuck you NOT rank 1 if they don't like you. You never know what they do behind closed doors.
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 12:19:27 am »
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Rather be rank 50 at a good school than rank 1 at a crappy school... also teachers *may* chuck you NOT rank 1 if they don't like you. You never know what they do behind closed doors.

It's so pathetic the way teachers let their biases destroy some people tertiary chances.
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2010, 12:57:49 am »
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Rather be rank 50 at a good school than rank 1 at a crappy school... also teachers *may* chuck you NOT rank 1 if they don't like you. You never know what they do behind closed doors.
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Omg you're scaring me what if my teacher does something dodgy to me. I think im rank one for one of my subjects but dont really get on with the teacher.

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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2010, 12:59:55 am »
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I already KNOW my teachers are doing things dodgy to me but you can't change it so no point worrying about it. A letter of complaint to the principal about unfair treatment regarding a certain teacher could be a way to get even :P
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2010, 01:03:03 am »
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I already KNOW my teachers are doing things dodgy to me but you can't change it so no point worrying about it. A letter of complaint to the principal about unfair treatment regarding a certain teacher could be a way to get even Tongue

Yeah, that's a good idea but only because you're done with VCE.
Made a compaint at the start of the year about my english teacher, wrecked most of the year for me.
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2010, 01:04:37 am »
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We'll see if something dodgy has gone on when results come out on the 13th.

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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2010, 01:06:31 am »
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Use an anonymous email address to complain if you're worried about getting bottom ranked :P
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Re: Is it a disadvantage to come from a low achieving school?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2010, 06:34:30 am »
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Wow.. teachers actually do that? Thats mean D: