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Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« on: November 19, 2010, 01:52:26 pm »
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Wanted to try getting ahead this holidays with chem. Maybe learning about 1/4 of the years course but I'm not sure if I need a tutor/school to help. Is it self learnable?
I did do units 1 & 2 btw

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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 01:56:02 pm »
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Yeh, I'm doing the whole of Unit 3.

If you need help, just wikipedia/youtube it. Alternatively, post it here.

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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 02:05:21 pm »
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If you are determined to do so it should work fine :)
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 02:10:19 pm »
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yeah it's not hard at all really to learn it.
depending on your interest levels it should be pretty okay, get a good tutor if you are having trouble. i learnt it before the term and it was definitely not a problem and made the year a breeze. go for it :)
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 02:48:10 pm »
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I'm interested in self-learning too... my Yr 11 teacher wasn't very helpful...

What's the best textbook to use during Yr 12? My school requires the Nelson textbook; i personally don't find it very good.
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 02:51:47 pm »
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yeah it's not hard at all really to learn it.
depending on your interest levels it should be pretty okay, get a good tutor if you are having trouble. i learnt it before the term and it was definitely not a problem and made the year a breeze. go for it :)

This.

Also when you get to Spectroscopy/Chromatography DON'T bother memorising all the filler in the textbook. The questions for these areas are quite straightforward, honestly. I remember they seemed quite daunting at first, but so long as you understand the basic principles and how to apply it to specific cases - which is obviously gained through the completion of several exam-style questions(which, coincidentally, are all very predictable, save a small section occasionally  :P) - that's all you need to know.

In fact, come to think of it the same applies to most of chemistry; it is essentially all application, with little requirement for rote-learned information or obscure facts. It is because of this that I think chemistry can, if treated properly, yield a high return for minimal work. :D

So yeah, read over it, but don't become bogged down in the details.

What I personally did during the summer holidays with all my subjects was to treat the material purely for interest, ignorant of the common VCAA questions and other things of that sort which detract from the content itself. By doing this I learnt to appreciate the subject matter, which improved both my understanding and motivation as well as not starting to become "burnt out" before year 12 had even started.

So that's what I'd recommend you all to do, if you wish - you may even find that when unhindered by the confines of VCE you actually enjoy a subject you have traditionally detested. :)

Hmm, enough ranting for now, I think.
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 03:31:28 pm »
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^ yep agreed with spectro/chromo.
these seems to be really difficult, but after realising how much unneeded stuff there was, it become one of the easiest parts of the course!
organic chemistry is probably easier actually, this will be very fine to self-learn, use the Heinemenn i reckon, the others aren't as good.

i don't think any of the course should be too troubling, just as long as you can get over the initial bump of spectro/chromo you will be sweeet. and ask here for help if needed :)
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2010, 07:45:35 pm »
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Oh okay. Cool. Do you guys recommend any study guides or anything like that for chem?

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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2010, 07:51:07 pm »
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Oh okay. Cool. Do you guys recommend any study guides or anything like that for chem?
Lisachem was probably the best study guide I found for chem. It cut all the crap that the textbook had and got straight to the point. I'd recommend getting it, none of the others really helped me that much.
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2010, 08:18:20 pm »
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Oh okay. Cool. Do you guys recommend any study guides or anything like that for chem?

hmm...I found the A+ Notes to be really good.
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2010, 08:39:26 pm »
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Just bought the A+ notes yesterday. Glad I did :)
I'll try get my hands on a copy of lisachem too maybe.

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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2010, 08:42:41 pm »
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Just bought the A+ notes yesterday. Glad I did :)
I'll try get my hands on a copy of lisachem too maybe.
I'm selling it. But another user has it reserved till Dec 1st. So I'll PM you after then if it's still available, I only have unit 3 though not unit 4. And yes, A+ notes are also pretty good.
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 12:01:28 am »
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When are 2011 study guides/supplements generally released... january?

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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 12:15:11 am »
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Yeah teacher wasn't that great so had to learn most of it myself. It's sometimes complicated but ask the teacher any qs about what you don't understand.
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Re: Year 12 chemistry self-learnable?
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2010, 12:19:17 am »
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If you can get your head around a back titration and how to read nmr spectra on your own, then you have pretty much learnt unit 3 chem. :D

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