PG med at UoM

[dptjandra]

dunno - maybe I can read and write but am unable to speak at all?  it'd be pretty interesting.  it's the 75% GPA which I spose is more of a worry

[Russ]

Not to put down anyone's achievements, but I know some guys with very high English scores (one 50) who are absolutely atrocious at written and spoken expression

[luken93]

Not to put down anyone's achievements, but I know some guys with very high English scores (one 50) who are absolutely atrocious at written and spoken expression

And I don't mean to knock anyone's scores, congrats on getting them, but how does that enable you to be given a very good score for a language that you cannot speak?
Maybe there should be an oral section for the English exams just like any LOTE VCE subject

[dptjandra]

It would be a slightly unwieldy system, I believe.  Firstly because of the large number of students who do VCE English, and secondly because it could potentially be so subjective and potentially farcical, depending on what was asked. That is, who is to judge what is a "suitable" standard of English speaking ability on a graded scale?  What do they ask?  General conversation would almost be adjudging social skills more than anything that can really be learnt.  The concept of a "memorised" speech (which would surely be done by a large number of these "good English students who can't communicate") would probably make the method no more helpful than the current system of having a compulsory SAC which involves making a speech.  While it may make the marking system slightly more uniform with regards to this oral component, I'm not sure I'm entirely convinced it will really help...the real test when it comes to these things is in the real world anyway (as opposed to VCE world )

[luken93]

Yeah I guess there is really no way of doing it, I'd know that even though I can speak perfect English and I'm Aussie, I'd still be nervous about an interview...

[funkyducky]

You know how there's guaranteed entrance for Biomed students with ATAR 99.9+? Is it possible to have guaranteed entrance from Science undergrad, if you get 99.9+?

[Russ]

Yes, the guaranteed pathway is for any student who qualifies

[dptjandra]

Yeh - it is less ambiguous now...I remember when I was enrolling, it said "Bachelor of Biomedicine" on the "guaranteed entry" thing...which is what changed my mind from doing BSci (though I don't regret going into BBiomed...loving it).  Currently it just says the guaranteed path is from any Melbourne Ugrad degree (so I spose hypothetically you could do arts if you fulfilled all the prereq subjects (not sure what sort of crazy overloading and stuff you'd need to do!!)  I've heard about someone trying to do it via BCom...not sure if that's just rumour though.

[Russ]

You can do it through arts by doing 1 summer subject (chem 102 probably)