Undergraduate med after yr 12

[mikee65]

Since you can still apply for UG med after finishing VCE how does the admission process differ, is there a separate category with limited places or does the umat get assessed differently on subsequent attempts?

[taiga]

Since you can still apply for UG med after finishing VCE how does the admission process differ, is there a separate category with limited places or does the umat get assessed differently on subsequent attempts?

I think it's UMAT  then Interview then ATAR

Results from all three culminate for whichever uni it is to form a decision.

It's very much based on the institution as far as I am aware.

[stonecold]

I'm no expert at this, but some universities allow for non-standard undregraduate entry.  It is similar to regular undergrad entry, however they also look at your GPA.  UMAT cutoffs also vary from standard undergrad cutoff generally.

[mikee65]

I'm no expert at this, but some universities allow for non-standard undregraduate entry.  It is similar to regular undergrad entry, however they also look at your GPA.  UMAT cutoffs also vary from standard undergrad cutoff generally.

ah thanks stone, I see youve decided BBioMed/BSc at UoM, my friends also doing this but how exactly would it work given that both degrees have practically the same subjects?

[stonecold]

I'm no expert at this, but some universities allow for non-standard undregraduate entry.  It is similar to regular undergrad entry, however they also look at your GPA.  UMAT cutoffs also vary from standard undergrad cutoff generally.

ah thanks stone, I see youve decided BBioMed/BSc at UoM, my friends also doing this but how exactly would it work given that both degrees have practically the same subjects?

Oh, I am doing one or the other. Not both. 

And also, if you take a gap year then you are judged as a standard entry.  But I cannot afford to take a gap year, because if I screw up the UMAT again, then I don't think I could live with myself.

And focusing on nothing but the UMAT for the next 8 months would likely drive me crazy.

[mikee65]

I'm no expert at this, but some universities allow for non-standard undregraduate entry.  It is similar to regular undergrad entry, however they also look at your GPA.  UMAT cutoffs also vary from standard undergrad cutoff generally.

ah thanks stone, I see youve decided BBioMed/BSc at UoM, my friends also doing this but how exactly would it work given that both degrees have practically the same subjects?

Oh, I am doing one or the other. Not both. 

And also, if you take a gap year then you are judged as a standard entry.  But I cannot afford to take a gap year, because if I screw up the UMAT again, then I don't think I could live with myself.

And focusing on nothing but the UMAT for the next 8 months would likely drive me crazy.

yea, I was also contemplating that, even at UoM doing science you would do the UMAT to try entry to UG med? then 2nd year= gamsat and umat prep ohh the agony

[Russ]

If you start tertiary study, apparently Monash won't take you so you're going to have to go interstate

[stonecold]

If you start tertiary study, apparently Monash won't take you so you're going to have to go interstate

Yeah, only some Uni's have non standard undergrad entry, and monash is not one of them.

[mikee65]

If you start tertiary study, apparently Monash won't take you so you're going to have to go interstate

Yeah, only some Uni's have non standard undergrad entry, and monash is not one of them.

so most other interstate unis are? newcastle??

[stonecold]

If you start tertiary study, apparently Monash won't take you so you're going to have to go interstate

Yeah, only some Uni's have non standard undergrad entry, and monash is not one of them.

so most other interstate unis are? newcastle??

Read this:

http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?t=11141

And also, my bad sorry.  Gap year students are considered non-standard too according to that.  I am a little confused now.

[mikee65]

If you start tertiary study, apparently Monash won't take you so you're going to have to go interstate

Yeah, only some Uni's have non standard undergrad entry, and monash is not one of them.

so most other interstate unis are? newcastle??

Read this:

http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?t=11141

And also, my bad sorry.  Gap year students are considered non-standard too according to that.  I am a little confused now.

blast, nothing on newcastle

[stonecold]

If you start tertiary study, apparently Monash won't take you so you're going to have to go interstate

Yeah, only some Uni's have non standard undergrad entry, and monash is not one of them.

so most other interstate unis are? newcastle??

Read this:

http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?t=11141

And also, my bad sorry.  Gap year students are considered non-standard too according to that.  I am a little confused now.

blast, nothing on newcastle

Nah hang on found this.

http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showpost.php?p=127697&postcount=4

I am keen on Newcastle and UNSW.

Are there any others, or is that list correct.

Note that UWA is having its final intake for undergrad med in 2011.

[mikee65]

If you start tertiary study, apparently Monash won't take you so you're going to have to go interstate

Yeah, only some Uni's have non standard undergrad entry, and monash is not one of them.

so most other interstate unis are? newcastle??

Read this:

http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showthread.php?t=11141

And also, my bad sorry.  Gap year students are considered non-standard too according to that.  I am a little confused now.

blast, nothing on newcastle

Nah hang on found this.

http://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/showpost.php?p=127697&postcount=4

I am keen on Newcastle and UNSW.

Are there any others, or is that list correct.

Note that UWA is having its final intake for undergrad med in 2011.

mm I never looked at UWA, my careers advisor said no one had ever gotten into UWA, apparently then are very reluctant to interstate applicants no surprise really as this is in parallel with their views on power centralisation lol

[Caspar]

Starting a course puts you out of contention from spots at UAdel, various provisional programs and makes UNSW and JCU a little harder (arguable) to get into. UTAS is much more willing to accept non standard interstaters than school leavers. If you can muster a 83rdish percentile you have a decent chance at a late round bonded spot.

[stonecold]

I think I will just hedge my bets on the gamsat.  if I can smash section 3, which is all science, then i should be okay as it is double weighted

still i'll do the UMAT next year to see if something comes up though.  looking to sure up a spot in med asap!