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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2008, 06:33:27 pm »
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Referring to one accounting priciple, expain why revenue and expense accounts are closed.

Why aren't asset and liability accounts closed?

Explain one advantage and one disadvantage of using a FIFO system of stock recording.

Why is GST not part of the historical cost of an asset?

Explain 2 disadvantages of offering discounts.

A business prepares its reports each quarter (i.e. in March, June, September and December). On the 1st of February the business purchases new equipment valued at $55,000 (GST Inclusive). The equipment requires delivery costing $2530 (GST inclusive), installation costing $4400 (GST inclusive), and insurance for 12 months valued at $1200 (GST Exclusive). The owner believes the equipement can be sold in 3 years time for $20,000 (GST exclusive). What would be the depreciation expense reported in the profit and loss statement at 31st March?
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2008, 12:44:59 am »
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Referring to one accounting priciple, expain why revenue and expense accounts are closed.
Reporting Period- so that revenues earned and expenses incurred in the current reporting period can be used to calculate profit for the reporting period. This resets the revenues and expenses back to 0 so that those revenues and expenses arent used in the next reporting periods calculation of profit.

Why aren't asset and liability accounts closed?
They are ongoing items and aren't used to calculate profit so their is no need to close them for the reporting period. (bad explanation)

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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2008, 01:40:38 am »
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Edit: sorry, that last question was poorly worded and just bad in general. It wouldn't have any effect on liabilities as there is no present obligation as a result of past events. In accounting terms, nothing has actually happened.


the ques is saying that the business is the one selling the stock yea? i think unearned revenue (liability) and debtors control (asset) would go up... and i think this unearned revenue stuff is in unit 4 lol...
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2008, 11:18:59 am »
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Explain one advantage and one disadvantage of using a FIFO system of stock recording.

Advantage: Using the FIFO system, we can calculate cost of sales by assuming that the first stock we purchase is the first stock sold. We therefore have a figure for cost of sales for all our journals and ultimately the profit loss statement. If we did not use FIFO then it would be extremely hard to keep track of the selling price of each different stock item.

Disadvantage: In reality our first stock may not always be sold first, the stock we purchased later, possibly the more expensive stock may be sold first. Therefore we think we are selling the cheaper stock when in actual fact we are selling the more expensive stock. As a result Stock control can be overstated, as the value of stock may be less, and Net Profit overstated as cost of sales may be understated.

Why is GST not part of the historical cost of an asset?

When you purchase an asset you usually pay the cost price and the GST. Under the ATO requirements the GST component must be shown clearly and listed seperately. This is because GST is not actually part of the historical cost of the asset, but rather a 10% tax on all goods and services. On purchases it represents a reduction in GST liabilities to the ATO, rather than part of the price of the asset.

Explain 2 disadvantages of offering discounts.

1. Less Cash is being received from debtors, as the amount they owe (in terms of cash) has been reduced.

2. Net profit is reduced, the business recognises the debtors balance has decrease by the amount they have paid plus any discount however this discount must be reported somewhere. It is an expense and represents a reduction in an inflow of economic benefit from debtors and a  decrease in net profit 


A business prepares its reports each quater (i.e. in March, June, September and December). On the 1st of February the business purchases new equipment valued at $55,000 (GST Inclusive). The equipment requires delivery costing $2530 (GST inclusive), installation costing $4400 (GST inclusive), and insurance for 12 months valued at $1200 (GST Exclusive). The owner believes the equipement can be sold in 3 years time for $20,000 (GST exclusive). What would be the depreciation expense reported in the profit and loss statement at 31st March?

Cost of the Asset= 50 000 (actual equipment ex GST) + 2300 (delivery costs) +  4000 (installation) , note insurance is an annual recurring expense so is not part of the cost of the asset

Cost of the asset = 56300, Life of the asset is 3 years, Residual Value is 20000 (ex gst)

depreciation expense(PA) = 56300-20000/3 = $12100 per annum, now we need to adjust for 2 months depreciation

depreciation expense as at 31st march= 12100 x (2/12) = $2016

noted edited, sorry bout the mistake


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Re: Random Accounting Revision Questions
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2008, 04:03:02 pm »
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Edit: sorry, that last question was poorly worded and just bad in general. It wouldn't have any effect on liabilities as there is no present obligation as a result of past events. In accounting terms, nothing has actually happened.


the ques is saying that the business is the one selling the stock yea? i think unearned revenue (liability) and debtors control (asset) would go up... and i think this unearned revenue stuff is in unit 4 lol...

No; prepaid revenue is when you have been paid but haven't earned that revenue yet. Nothing has happened here, so there is no effect.

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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2008, 10:53:10 pm »
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Explain with reference to a qualitative characteristic of accounting, why Traditional Interiors should conduct a physical stocktake despite having perpetual stock records available. (3 marks)- Exambusters

hey i just checked my checkpoints book and it said the answer was reliability- to verify the accuracy of the stock cards

what's up with that

i can see how the answer is 'relevance', but I could also see how it can be 'reliability'. Would I be able to put either and still get it right? Better still, has this question been asked in the VCAA exams and does anyone have the link to the proper answer?
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2008, 11:51:19 am »
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wat year was the question, check the assessment report

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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2008, 05:42:28 pm »
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2001- the last available assessment report on the VCAA website is 2002

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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2008, 10:07:23 pm »
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Look in Cambridge VCE accounting page 160 , "Referring to one qualitative characteristic explain the role of a physical stocktake"

Qualitative characteristic Reliability

Explanation The stocktake ensures that the figure for Stock Control reported in the Balance Sheet
is accurate and free from bias by verifying the balances in the stock cards and in the
process detecting any stock loss or gain.

seems i was wrong, but i hope this isnt the same answer written by the same person as cambridge publishes both checkpoints and this book.

i still think its not that clear though

the definitions: Relevance states that reports should include all information that is useful for decision making, and exclude information that isnt. This is information should be up do date and appropriate to the decision.

to me that says that a stocktake is to do with relevance as it is useful for decision making, we adjust stock control based on a stock gain revenue or expense detected.  To me thats similar to balance day adjustments, adjusting revenue or expense accounts to include information for the current reporting period (i know that stocktakes aren't really to do with reporting period, but the adjusting idea is the same). It is clear though that by not doing a stocktake you are in breach of relevance.

Reliability- Reports should contain information that is free from bias and that can be relied upon for its accuracy.... we should avoid the use of estimatesT. I always thought this had to do with source documents and using figures that are on paper so to speak rather than guessing or inventing numbers. the use of stock cards aren't guesses though, you are continually updating them with the use of source documents. Yes doing a stocktake does improve the accuracy of reports but its got nothing to do with recording using source documents,

wat are your thoughts

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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2008, 11:21:00 pm »
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Edit: sorry, that last question was poorly worded and just bad in general. It wouldn't have any effect on liabilities as there is no present obligation as a result of past events. In accounting terms, nothing has actually happened.


the ques is saying that the business is the one selling the stock yea? i think unearned revenue (liability) and debtors control (asset) would go up... and i think this unearned revenue stuff is in unit 4 lol...

No; prepaid revenue is when you have been paid but haven't earned that revenue yet. Nothing has happened here, so there is no effect.

oh yeah no cash has been received yet... my bad >.<

A business prepares its reports each quater (i.e. in March, June, September and December). On the 1st of February the business purchases new equipment valued at $55,000 (GST Inclusive). The equipment requires delivery costing $2530 (GST inclusive), installation costing $4400 (GST inclusive), and insurance for 12 months valued at $1200 (GST Exclusive). The owner believes the equipement can be sold in 3 years time for $20,000 (GST exclusive). What would be the depreciation expense reported in the profit and loss statement at 31st March?

Cost of the Asset= 50 000 (actual equipment ex GST) + 2300 (delivery costs) +  4000 (installation) , note insurance is an annual recurring expense so is not part of the cost of the asset

Cost of the asset = 56300, Life of the asset is 3 years, Residual Value is 18182 (ex gst)

depreciation expense(PA) = 56300-18182/3 = $12706 per annum, now we need to adjust for 2 months depreciation

depreciation expense as at 31st march= 12706 x (2/12) = $2118


isn't the residual value already GST excluded and is therefore 20000 instead of 18182?

and i reckon it should be reliability for the stocktake question... for all the reasons mentioned above that is for reliability...
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2008, 04:35:35 pm »
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I asked my teacher today and she said that you would get marks either way if you explained it properly but I doubt that that would be the case. The VCAA wouldn't give a question where their might be discrepancies if they can't prove that it's not one or the other, because we have all shown reasons why it could be both.

When I first did the question I put Reliability and explained it well (similar to whats been posted above).

When I read the Relevance answer, I was like ok, that makes sense. So to me they both makes sense. My teacher said she would put reliability but she could see why it could be both.

I wonder if someone would be able to clarify this.

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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2008, 08:51:25 pm »
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guess wat guys!

i was feeling bored in accounting class today and randomly opened folders on the school drive and i found the 2001 examiner's report! although i didnt know which ques it was... im guessing its this one:

2.3 – Accounting concept
(1.66/3)
The concept called for was ‘reliability’. The correct principle
‘verifiability’ was also accepted and in accounting terms is
probably a better answer although not a concept. Many students
neglected to mention the comparison of the physical stock take
with the stock records of the business.

how awesome is that! hahaha... i think it's not really relevance because that is to include any info that is useful for decision making and this info would not be known without a stock take but yeah i think thats not a very good explanation >.<
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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2008, 09:09:23 pm »
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guess wat guys!

i was feeling bored in accounting class today and randomly opened folders on the school drive and i found the 2001 examiner's report! although i didnt know which ques it was... im guessing its this one:

2.3 – Accounting concept
(1.66/3)
The concept called for was ‘reliability’. The correct principle
‘verifiability’ was also accepted and in accounting terms is
probably a better answer although not a concept. Many students
neglected to mention the comparison of the physical stock take
with the stock records of the business.

how awesome is that! hahaha... i think it's not really relevance because that is to include any info that is useful for decision making and this info would not be known without a stock take but yeah i think thats not a very good explanation >.<

sweet! the mystery is solved- thanks :)
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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2008, 09:27:42 pm »
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Actually.... the question we have been referring to is 'adapted' from the 2001 exam so their may my slight changes in the wording of the question etc... I'm still unsure.

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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2008, 10:45:51 pm »
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ok guys I have good news, I just spoke to anthony simmons, at a lecture today, he said it was reliability and he used a good example to indicate it is RELIABILITY not relevance. Imagine there was a case that the stock cards were the same as the physical stocktake, that means that theres no additional information to include that is relevant to decision making.

Refer back to the role of the stock take, "to verify the accuracy of the stock cards and in the process detect any stock loss or stock gain" meaning that the primary reason for doing a stocktake is to verify the accuracy of reports, which relates strictly to reliability, the detection of a stock loss or stock gain is just an added bonus sort of thing. Hope that clears things up, sorry for the confusion