werdna's essay-writing initiative - TIMETABLE on pg 1

[werdna]

Just wondering, why is Rohitpi, a year 11, a marker?

A couple of year 11 students are marking - myself, Burberry and Rohitpi.

Ah okay.. it's just that the majority of year 11's (you're an exception, obviously ) have not done 3/4 English; some of the advice/comments they provide, instead of being helpful, may cause the exact opposite?

Hmm.. good point. I'll see. And thanks! Haha

[Andiio]

Just wondering, why is Rohitpi, a year 11, a marker?

A couple of year 11 students are marking - myself, Burberry and Rohitpi.

Ah okay.. it's just that the majority of year 11's (you're an exception, obviously ) have not done 3/4 English; some of the advice/comments they provide, instead of being helpful, may cause the exact opposite?

Hmm.. good point. I'll see. And thanks! Haha

Just worried, haha
No probs, genius idea by the way!

[werdna]

So how should I organise the essays/markers/threads? This is doing my head in......

[iffets12345]

hey I can do year of Wonders!

[luken93]

hey I can do year of Wonders!

Yay You got 50 as well, me like for the coming year

[shinny]

Ask enwiabe if you can make a sub-forum within English & ESL perhaps. This will inevitably get quite spammy so I think it's for the greater good.

As for the markers, I think it might be a problem. As AN gets larger and larger, we're going to inevitably get many more members wanting to join this group next year. However, the number of markers is not going to increase. I'm prepared to mark a few essays a month, but I assume eventually the number of 'qualified' markers is not going to be enough. My solution is that I think at some stage, you guys will need to be able to mark your own essays. This is a skill that you will develop yourself because the best way to learn English is to mark it yourself. The only reason why I am now able to mark essays is because I marked my own; it's not like I went to essay marking school or something. So I propose that eventually, especially for text response, you guys will need to mark each other's essays. This works out well since most of the qualified markers haven't done the texts you guys have done. This way, you guys can also read each other's essays and learn from them. It's a process of mutual benefit really. Context and LA will probably keep the qualified markers busy enough as is, then yeh, perhaps leave text response to be marked by one another? Perhaps the qualified markers can just briefly skim over them and ensure the expression and structure is fine, but I think the bulk of the work will rely on you guys marking each other's ideas and such.

[werdna]

Ask enwiabe if you can make a sub-forum within English & ESL perhaps. This will inevitably get quite spammy so I think it's for the greater good.

As for the markers, I think it might be a problem. As AN gets larger and larger, we're going to inevitably get many more members wanting to join this group next year. However, the number of markers is not going to increase. I'm prepared to mark a few essays a month, but I assume eventually the number of 'qualified' markers is not going to be enough. My solution is that I think at some stage, you guys will need to be able to mark your own essays. This is a skill that you will develop yourself because the best way to learn English is to mark it yourself. The only reason why I am now able to mark essays is because I marked my own; it's not like I went to essay marking school or something. So I propose that eventually, especially for text response, you guys will need to mark each other's essays. This works out well since most of the qualified markers haven't done the texts you guys have done. This way, you guys can also read each other's essays and learn from them. It's a process of mutual benefit really. Context and LA will probably keep the qualified markers busy enough as is, then yeh, perhaps leave text response to be marked by one another? Perhaps the qualified markers can just briefly skim over them and ensure the expression and structure is fine, but I think the bulk of the work will rely on you guys marking each other's ideas and such.

Ahh shinny you LEGEND. This is exactly what I wanted!

The last thing I want to do is pressurise the markers. It says it in my first post - you don't have to be a 'qualified marker' to provide advice..

I've already PMed ninwa about creating a subforum today, and I'm just waiting for her to get back to me.

So for the better good of both markers and members, there will be 3 and only 3 threads - 1 for language analysis, 1 for text response and 1 for context. We can help each other out in addition to the markers' help.

[Andiio]

Ask enwiabe if you can make a sub-forum within English & ESL perhaps. This will inevitably get quite spammy so I think it's for the greater good.

As for the markers, I think it might be a problem. As AN gets larger and larger, we're going to inevitably get many more members wanting to join this group next year. However, the number of markers is not going to increase. I'm prepared to mark a few essays a month, but I assume eventually the number of 'qualified' markers is not going to be enough. My solution is that I think at some stage, you guys will need to be able to mark your own essays. This is a skill that you will develop yourself because the best way to learn English is to mark it yourself. The only reason why I am now able to mark essays is because I marked my own; it's not like I went to essay marking school or something. So I propose that eventually, especially for text response, you guys will need to mark each other's essays. This works out well since most of the qualified markers haven't done the texts you guys have done. This way, you guys can also read each other's essays and learn from them. It's a process of mutual benefit really. Context and LA will probably keep the qualified markers busy enough as is, then yeh, perhaps leave text response to be marked by one another? Perhaps the qualified markers can just briefly skim over them and ensure the expression and structure is fine, but I think the bulk of the work will rely on you guys marking each other's ideas and such.

Awesome idea. I've already started to critique myself and have seen quite a bit of improvement.

[werdna]

^ Exactly right.... I corrected all my essays by myself before handing it to the teacher. It's good to get into the headspace of a marker.

[burbs]

Just wondering, why is Rohitpi, a year 11, a marker?

A couple of year 11 students are marking - myself, Burberry and Rohitpi.

Ah okay.. it's just that the majority of year 11's (you're an exception, obviously ) have not done 3/4 English; some of the advice/comments they provide, instead of being helpful, may cause the exact opposite?

Hmm.. good point. I'll see. And thanks! Haha

Agreed. I was put on before I said yes.

[werdna]

Update: ninwa has accepted my request for a subforum for 'essay marking'! This will be done as soon as possible.

And also, appianway has suggested I add an English Language counterpart to this.. so this will be done once the new subforum is up and running.

[vea]

You're contribution to VN has been massive werdna!

[werdna]

You're contribution to VN has been massive werdna!

Not really... I've only been here 2 months.

[funkyducky]

Could someone please save a .doc copy of the timetable? I can't open .docx files :S

EDIT: I'm just going to update my version of OpenOffice, but I still think it'd be good to have a .doc version, for people with older versions of Microsoft Office.

[werdna]

Could someone please save a .doc copy of the timetable? I can't open .docx files :S

EDIT: I'm just going to update my version of OpenOffice, but I still think it'd be good to have a .doc version, for people with older versions of Microsoft Office.

I have a .doc version. I'll update it later though.