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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2011, 08:15:14 pm »
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Sorry ken that was a low blow (but true).

OT, it's not worth it. It's little things like sport, involvement, girlfriends, and whatnot that keep you looking forward to things in your year 12. Have those little mini things to look forward to as your motivation to do well, and you'll find you're doing alot  better than you would have.

You'd rather end up with a girlfriend/boyfriend, an important place in a sports team, an involvement prize, and a good atar, rather than a great ATAR and nothing else. That's not to say that there are some people out there who manage both :)

You'll also find that some of those involvement things will help you out in your Uni applications and whatnot. Oh yeah, and to bring y'all down to earth, VCE only has two utilities, getting you into your Uni, and if you're ethnic, preventing aunties bitching about you.

i reckon thats the best thing in this whole thread :)
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« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2011, 08:37:11 pm »
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PROTIP:

Don't break up with your girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other in order to concentrate on school.

Doesn't work.

Yeah because you're two ended up with 99.95 and you got 96. suck on that :D:D:D:D

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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2011, 08:52:53 pm »
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What Taiga said is very true. Good post too :).

If you have stuff to look forward to in the year it helps a great deal.
I was lucky last year to have a few things/events/occasions etc to look forward to that happened at different intervals during the year which helped my attitude towards study and school work.  
This helped me get motivated towards school since it actually puts you in a happier state of mind and more positive about almost everything which reflects on your school work and motivation for studying and doing well.

On the contrary if you have little to look forward to, try and make something of the year so you have something to look forward to. Otherwise your motivation will be there in a way but you won't feel that there is a short term goal/event that you are working for that will bring you happiness. Yes, a good ATAR will make you happy along with entry into your dream university course but this motivation seems very distant at the start of the year.

This post probably sounds a bit out there but it is personal experiences that seem to tie in with Taiga's view.
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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2011, 08:56:24 pm »
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OT, it's not worth it. It's little things like sport, involvement, girlfriends, and whatnot that keep you looking forward to things in your year 12. Have those little mini things to look forward to as your motivation to do well, and you'll find you're doing alot  better than you would have.

You'd rather end up with a girlfriend/boyfriend, an important place in a sports team, an involvement prize, and a good atar, rather than a great ATAR and nothing else. That's not to say that there are some people out there who manage both :)

Yep exactly. I gave up quite a few extracurricular activities and a relationship in order to concentrate on VCE (year 12 in particular) and eventually you find yourself piss bored and have very little to look forward to. Also, if you have less stuff on, you're less motivated to work and you find that you spread over the same workload over a longer period of time, rather than work efficiently and then go on your party or competition or whatever.
PROTIP:

Don't break up with your girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other in order to concentrate on school.

Doesn't work.

Yeah because you're two ended up with 99.95 and you got 96. suck on that :D:D:D:D

I have no idea what you're talking about Taiga.
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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2011, 08:57:49 pm »
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OT, it's not worth it. It's little things like sport, involvement, girlfriends, and whatnot that keep you looking forward to things in your year 12. Have those little mini things to look forward to as your motivation to do well, and you'll find you're doing alot  better than you would have.

You'd rather end up with a girlfriend/boyfriend, an important place in a sports team, an involvement prize, and a good atar, rather than a great ATAR and nothing else. That's not to say that there are some people out there who manage both :)

Yep exactly. I gave up quite a few extracurricular stuff and a relationship in order to concentrate on VCE (year 12 in particular) and eventually you find yourself piss bored and have very little to look forward to. Also, if you have less stuff on, you're less motivated to work and you find that you spread over the same workload over a longer period of time, rather than work efficiently and then go on your party or competition or whatever.
PROTIP:

Don't break up with your girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other in order to concentrate on school.

Doesn't work.

Yeah because you're two ended up with 99.95 and you got 96. suck on that :D:D:D:D

I have no idea what you're talking about Taiga.

He's not allowed to acknowledge it on vce notes because one of them is ex-staff
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« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2011, 10:29:17 pm »
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This is a slightly edited version of a speech I gave at my school last year about my approach to VCE, if you can be bothered reading through.  Don't know if it contains much helpful advice - kind of wrote it the night before I had to deliver it :P


Good afternoon staff and students,

I didn't think I would be back in the school so soon, or that I would ever need to address this assembly again - but I spose like Dr Scott, I somehow keep finding my way back.  Today I'll be speaking briefly about my own approach to the VCE.

In my view, there are a few ways to achieve success in VCE.  On one hand, you can just be academically brilliant, intellectually well endowed, a bit of a genius - I think James Lu and Jerry Guo epitomise that idea quite nicely, resulting in superb study scores and various other achievements.

Yet I also remember last year in one of Dr Ball's English classes an argument and assessment of the current VCE system vs.  an aptitude-based test.  I recall that ultimately Dr Ball gave his support in favour of the current structure over a UMAT type assessment.  His reasoning?  He thought it good that VCE rewarded not only cleverness, but the trait of perseverance.  Someone who is very naturally talented will not necessarily do well without hard work in VCE, and someone without the spark of brilliance can still do very well - really a lesson reflected in the real world.  Quite fittingly, I was not actually one of Dr Ball's students when overhearing this discussion, but rather one of the boys taking advantage of the opportunity the school offers to sit in on other English classes in Term 4.  Did I really need to be there?  Probably not - my own teacher Ms Mulready had taught me everything I needed to be well-equipped for the exam.  But by going to these classes, I was put in the right mindset to continually churn out detailed plans of essays and quote sheets each night - basically it was another way in which I worked hard when I could.  I suggest to everyone that they make the most out of being here from as early on in the year as possible - get as much out of your teachers as you possibly can...they really know what they're on about.  For their efforts I, and all other Year 12s of 2009, will always be thankful.

It is simultaneously important to understand what it means to put in "as much work as you can".  We all have our limitations to the number of hours we can study, and we all need the occasional break to eat, sleep, and socialise.  For myself, I know that when distractions exist, my capacity to work is almost non-existent.  When I was around with friends, that time needed to be well segregated from when actually studying.  Whether this be hanging out in the city, or even in study periods at school - most days you'd just find me laughing and talking with my mates, just getting it all out of the system, much to the distress of the librarians.  When I was at home, however, I would spend as much time as I could before 11pm revising and working.  It would not be uncommon to find me, even when in front of the television at 6:30pm wondering if Ringo and Donna on Neighbours were going to get together, with my dinner in one hand and a copy of Richard III on the table.  At the beginning of holidays too, I would write out schedules for what I wanted to achieve in each subject each day, even including periods for hanging out or taking a trip to the beach - a little sad? Yes? but also quite effective.  Now I certainly don't suggest that everyone take my approach - an obsession with the television show Neighbours is not something I would wish on anyone - but you do need to work out what the most effective way to get the most out of every hour of your day, based on your personal characteristics.

The final thing I would like to stress, is that while it is important to put the hours into your academic work, it should never, never be the sole focus of your year.  Your score at the end of the year is important, but even if you do well, you quickly realise that you do not want it to define you.  You would rather be defined by the friendships you forge and maintain with people within and outside the school, and the activities within the school and wider community which you engage in.  If you forget about this side of your life, you'll realise at the end of the year that you have very few funny or exhilarating memories to look back on.  To use an analogy, if VCE were like a girlfriend, she'd be the type who never wants to go out or do anything.  Unless you find a way to keep your life exciting throughout Year 11 and 12, you'll quickly find that all aspects of your life, including your romantic relationship with VCE (aka. your ENTER) also deteriorates.

So at this early stage in the year, find out what works for you in terms of study patterns.  If you play a lot of sport, you may find yourself needing to sleep more.  To get more work in, you may need to make adjustments like cutting out some facebook or television hours.  If you have too much time, it might indicate a need to study more or maybe you need to get involved more within the school (*cough*...join the environment committee).  It's also a good idea to surround yourself with smart friends - you can always ask them questions and kind of force you to pick up when you're falling behind.  Similarly, you should ask as many past students as possible for specific tips for the subjects you're studying - VCE, to both its credit and sometimes its detriment, is really a course which can be learnt in fullest detail by students.  Indeed, to some degree, your already determined academic potential will limit how much you can achieve in your final exams.  However, as long as you structure your VCE in a way that keeps you interested, motivated and occupied, you will do the best you possibly can, and not be one of those disappointed, and sometimes slightly presumptuous people, who declare that they "could" have done better "if they'd tried."

Thankyou and good luck
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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2011, 10:34:46 pm »
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This is a slightly edited version of a speech I gave at my school last year about my approach to VCE, if you can be bothered reading through.  Don't know if it contains much helpful advice - kind of wrote it the night before I had to deliver it :P


Good afternoon staff and students,

I didn't think I would be back in the school so soon, or that I would ever need to address this assembly again - but I spose like Dr Scott, I somehow keep finding my way back.  Today I'll be speaking briefly about my own approach to the VCE.

In my view, there are a few ways to achieve success in VCE.  On one hand, you can just be academically brilliant, intellectually well endowed, a bit of a genius - I think James Lu and Jerry Guo epitomise that idea quite nicely, resulting in superb study scores and various other achievements.

Yet I also remember last year in one of Dr Ball's English classes an argument and assessment of the current VCE system vs.  an aptitude-based test.  I recall that ultimately Dr Ball gave his support in favour of the current structure over a UMAT type assessment.  His reasoning?  He thought it good that VCE rewarded not only cleverness, but the trait of perseverance.  Someone who is very naturally talented will not necessarily do well without hard work in VCE, and someone without the spark of brilliance can still do very well - really a lesson reflected in the real world.  Quite fittingly, I was not actually one of Dr Ball's students when overhearing this discussion, but rather one of the boys taking advantage of the opportunity the school offers to sit in on other English classes in Term 4.  Did I really need to be there?  Probably not - my own teacher Ms Mulready had taught me everything I needed to be well-equipped for the exam.  But by going to these classes, I was put in the right mindset to continually churn out detailed plans of essays and quote sheets each night - basically it was another way in which I worked hard when I could.  I suggest to everyone that they make the most out of being here from as early on in the year as possible - get as much out of your teachers as you possibly can...they really know what they're on about.  For their efforts I, and all other Year 12s of 2009, will always be thankful.

It is simultaneously important to understand what it means to put in "as much work as you can".  We all have our limitations to the number of hours we can study, and we all need the occasional break to eat, sleep, and socialise.  For myself, I know that when distractions exist, my capacity to work is almost non-existent.  When I was around with friends, that time needed to be well segregated from when actually studying.  Whether this be hanging out in the city, or even in study periods at school - most days you'd just find me laughing and talking with my mates, just getting it all out of the system, much to the distress of the librarians.  When I was at home, however, I would spend as much time as I could before 11pm revising and working.  It would not be uncommon to find me, even when in front of the television at 6:30pm wondering if Ringo and Donna on Neighbours were going to get together, with my dinner in one hand and a copy of Richard III on the table.  At the beginning of holidays too, I would write out schedules for what I wanted to achieve in each subject each day, even including periods for hanging out or taking a trip to the beach - a little sad? Yes? but also quite effective.  Now I certainly don't suggest that everyone take my approach - an obsession with the television show Neighbours is not something I would wish on anyone - but you do need to work out what the most effective way to get the most out of every hour of your day, based on your personal characteristics.

The final thing I would like to stress, is that while it is important to put the hours into your academic work, it should never, never be the sole focus of your year.  Your score at the end of the year is important, but even if you do well, you quickly realise that you do not want it to define you.  You would rather be defined by the friendships you forge and maintain with people within and outside the school, and the activities within the school and wider community which you engage in.  If you forget about this side of your life, you'll realise at the end of the year that you have very few funny or exhilarating memories to look back on.  To use an analogy, if VCE were like a girlfriend, she'd be the type who never wants to go out or do anything.  Unless you find a way to keep your life exciting throughout Year 11 and 12, you'll quickly find that all aspects of your life, including your romantic relationship with VCE (aka. your ENTER) also deteriorates.

So at this early stage in the year, find out what works for you in terms of study patterns.  If you play a lot of sport, you may find yourself needing to sleep more.  To get more work in, you may need to make adjustments like cutting out some facebook or television hours.  If you have too much time, it might indicate a need to study more or maybe you need to get involved more within the school (*cough*...join the environment committee).  It's also a good idea to surround yourself with smart friends - you can always ask them questions and kind of force you to pick up when you're falling behind.  Similarly, you should ask as many past students as possible for specific tips for the subjects you're studying - VCE, to both its credit and sometimes its detriment, is really a course which can be learnt in fullest detail by students.  Indeed, to some degree, your already determined academic potential will limit how much you can achieve in your final exams.  However, as long as you structure your VCE in a way that keeps you interested, motivated and occupied, you will do the best you possibly can, and not be one of those disappointed, and sometimes slightly presumptuous people, who declare that they "could" have done better "if they'd tried."

Thankyou and good luck

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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2011, 11:07:14 pm »
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@ dptjandra (Didnt want to re quote that wall of text)

a lot of great advice there thanks! just out of curiosity, what school did you attend?

PROTIP:

Don't break up with your girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other in order to concentrate on school.

Doesn't work.

I agree somewhat with this, though say you had an arguement/fight with your gf/bf wouldnt that be really detrimental?
I know that after my mate had a fight with his gf he said to me: 'i really dont want to do the bio sac tomorrow' - and he ended up doin shit house even tho his a pretty decent student.

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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2011, 11:09:34 pm »
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ripping dptjandra's thing for my dux speech. LOL jks.
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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2011, 11:17:42 pm »
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@ dptjandra (Didnt want to re quote that wall of text)

a lot of great advice there thanks! just out of curiosity, what school did you attend?

PROTIP:

Don't break up with your girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other in order to concentrate on school.

Doesn't work.

I agree somewhat with this, though say you had an arguement/fight with your gf/bf wouldnt that be really detrimental?
I know that after my mate had a fight with his gf he said to me: 'i really dont want to do the bio sac tomorrow' - and he ended up doin shit house even tho his a pretty decent student.

MGS - I was there when he delivered this at assembly.  :p
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« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2011, 11:23:20 pm »
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AWESOME. But seriously, NEIGHBOURS? (only joking)

Fuzzylogic loves neighbours too. Maybe it's got secret subliminal VCE msgs in it.
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« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2011, 11:26:04 pm »
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lol, well - they sit their VCE exams before we did ;)
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Re: Secure my Yr 12 insecurities.
« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2011, 11:52:10 pm »
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@ dptjandra (Didnt want to re quote that wall of text)

a lot of great advice there thanks! just out of curiosity, what school did you attend?

PROTIP:

Don't break up with your girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other in order to concentrate on school.

Doesn't work.

I agree somewhat with this, though say you had an arguement/fight with your gf/bf wouldnt that be really detrimental?
I know that after my mate had a fight with his gf he said to me: 'i really dont want to do the bio sac tomorrow' - and he ended up doin shit house even tho his a pretty decent student.

MGS - I was there when he delivered this at assembly.  :p

I'm so jealous EZ, awesome speech.
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― Hunter S. Thompson

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« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2011, 12:37:07 am »
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My gf and I have a no pre sac/exam dump agreement :D

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« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2011, 01:22:53 am »
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My gf and I have a no pre sac/exam dump agreement :D



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