Getting 35+ in Legal, without doing 1/2

[MrIraq]

hey guys i need ur help, cauz i dropped chem this year and the only other option my skool allowed me to do was legal  

yeah so i was wondering ... i havent done units 1/2 and im starting now 3/4 ... what should i do or study which was in 1/2 and is essential for me on the exam? ,,

if any1 knows nything please tell me  :smitten:  

i want something like 35+ ... bcauz ive only done two subjects so far which are further 39 and ITA 36 ... and this year im doing legal, eng, methods, physcics, and repeating further (or else having free time alone :/)

any help?  :smitten: ,, and please dont say something like" study hard" ...

[Souljette_93]

I don't know much about legal itself, but since it's a humanity subject I'd assume it has a bit of rote-learning ( so write up notes throughout the year...) and sort of English based, so essay writing skills come in play.

[MrIraq]

I don't know much about legal itself, but since it's a humanity subject I'd assume it has a bit of rote-learning ( so write up notes throughout the year...) and sort of English based, so essay writing skills come in play.

i cant write essays.. i honestly suck . my english is crap.

[Souljette_93]

I don't know much about legal itself, but since it's a humanity subject I'd assume it has a bit of rote-learning ( so write up notes throughout the year...) and sort of English based, so essay writing skills come in play.

i cant write essays.. i honestly suck . my english is crap.

Well then work on it! If you don't work in legal, at least in English, it will have a huge role in your ATAR.

[Darren]

Legal is less about regurgitating what you know, but more about how you apply what you know, especially in ambiguously worded questions which require a certain structure to answer correctly. So you should practice being able to craft well written extended responses. That being said, trust me, it's easy to learn, just make sure you don't neglect practicing what you know. Other than that, you should be fine, it's quite a relaxing subject I find :]

[MrIraq]

I don't know much about legal itself, but since it's a humanity subject I'd assume it has a bit of rote-learning ( so write up notes throughout the year...) and sort of English based, so essay writing skills come in play.

i cant write essays.. i honestly suck . my english is crap.

Well then work on it! If you don't work in legal, at least in English, it will have a huge role in your ATAR.

its not really essay writing... its more learning stuff and putting them into play.. umm yeah

[eeps]

I don't know much about legal itself, but since it's a humanity subject I'd assume it has a bit of rote-learning ( so write up notes throughout the year...) and sort of English based, so essay writing skills come in play.

Exactly that. Anyhow, most of the concepts/information learnt in Units 1/2 is repeated again in Units 3/4; so there is no real need to worry. My school has a few students doing Legal Studies 3/4 this year, who haven't done Units 1/2 either. It's a subject that doesn't necessarily require Units 1/2 to be done - it helps; but it's not essential.

[iNerd]

I went to MHS info session for Legal Studies.

The informant there was adamant that you should take Legal 1/2 first because in his 20 years of experience no 3/4 student without 1/2 has gotten over 45 (but your aiming 35+ anyway...)

He also repeated that about 50 times (no joke).

He backed it up with saying you need to know how to phrase answers in Legal.

I know nothing else.

[MrIraq]

I went to MHS info session for Legal Studies.

The informant there was adamant that you should take Legal 1/2 first because in his 20 years of experience no 3/4 student without 1/2 has gotten over 45 (but your aiming 35+ anyway...)

He also repeated that about 50 times (no joke).

He backed it up with saying you need to know how to phrase answers in Legal.

I know nothing else.

stop scaring me.. :S

I don't know much about legal itself, but since it's a humanity subject I'd assume it has a bit of rote-learning ( so write up notes throughout the year...) and sort of English based, so essay writing skills come in play.

Exactly that. Anyhow, most of the concepts/information learnt in Units 1/2 is repeated again in Units 3/4; so there is no real need to worry. My school has a few students doing Legal Studies 3/4 this year, who haven't done Units 1/2 either. It's a subject that doesn't necessarily require Units 1/2 to be done - it helps; but it's not essential.

yeah but my class has like 20 people doing legal.. and their all pretty dum.. i mean only 2 of them would get a 40 or something.. and then id get like a third rank..

[iNerd]

^^

Haha, well he scared me out of it! In the end only 2 year 11s decided to go ahead with it...

[werdna]

Yeah, it's important that you know how to phrase your answers in Legal Studies. But it's just a matter of following the criteria, not going overboard with your phrasing. My teacher is a Legal examiner and I can tell you now, she has the worst English ever, even she admits it. She can speak fluently, but her sentences are all over the place, spelling is wrong and yeah.. her vocabulary isn't very broad. So for Legal, just play by the books and don't go crazy about the phrasing of the answers - know the 'key knowledge' inside out and learn to apply things to real-life examples/cases.

[burbs]

As far as 1/2, a fair bit of it is just an extension of those units in 3/4 (Dispute resolution, adversary system & jury, criminal and civil, VCAT... actually like everything but the constitution), but 1/2 isn't necessary.

That teacher ATAR is talking about, well he is my teacher and I understand where he is coming from, but I know plenty of people who picked up 3/4 and got pretty good scores. In legal the difference between a 45 and 50 isn't much.

So what you should do is go over that book I linked you to with the chapter that Werdna talked about (Intro chapter, has a rundown of important info) and then make notes based off the study design. Don't neglect legal throughout the year but its not something you should need to memorise, really just understand.

Also, here are my Unit One and Unit Two notes. They were pretty quickly done but I got A+s for both exams, if that counts for anything. Not the greatest but should be enough when coupled with Justice and Outcomes.

[onur369]

lol mriraq, im far advanced than u in legal. hope your not categorising me in that 'dum' group.

[MrIraq]

lol mriraq, im far advanced than u in legal. hope your not categorising me in that 'dum' group.

lol ok my try harded freind .,. stop acting nerdy ... at the end.. the winner is always an iraqi like me

As far as 1/2, a fair bit of it is just an extension of those units in 3/4 (Dispute resolution, adversary system & jury, criminal and civil, VCAT... actually like everything but the constitution), but 1/2 isn't necessary.

That teacher ATAR is talking about, well he is my teacher and I understand where he is coming from, but I know plenty of people who picked up 3/4 and got pretty good scores. In legal the difference between a 45 and 50 isn't much.

So what you should do is go over that book I linked you to with the chapter that Werdna talked about (Intro chapter, has a rundown of important info) and then make notes based off the study design. Don't neglect legal throughout the year but its not something you should need to memorise, really just understand.

Also, here are my Unit One and Unit Two notes. They were pretty quickly done but I got A+s for both exams, if that counts for anything. Not the greatest but should be enough when coupled with Justice and Outcomes.

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[werdna]

Don't neglect legal throughout the year but its not something you should need to memorise, really just understand.

This. There are some parts of the Legal Studies course that require minor rote-learning, but that's about it as far as memorising goes. It's a common misunderstanding that you can just memorise things from the textbook over and over and get by well, but that's not the case (in my eyes) anyway. You should be understanding and applying the material you learn; looking at daily cases and news that relate to the legal principles you've learnt in class.