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Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« on: February 03, 2011, 11:03:52 am »
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These are the questions:

Write balanced equations for the combustion of the following hydrocarbons and include states:

A) Ethane

B) Octane

C) Butane

Even if 1 person can just help with A and another with B that would be great!

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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 11:06:46 am »
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A)
2C2H6 + 7O2 -> 4CO2 + 6H2O

B)
2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O

C)
2C4H10 + 13O2 -> 8CO2 + 10H2O


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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 11:09:58 am »
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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 11:10:17 am »
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So, combustion is the reaction with oxygen... I'm doing complete combustion for all these, but if it is incomplete, CO2 will be replaced with either CO (carbon monoxide) or C (carbon).

A) 2C2H6 + 7O2 --> 4CO2 + 6H2O

B) 2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O

C) 2C4H10 + 13O2 -> 8CO2 + 10H2O

Required theory:
• For alkanes: CnH2n + 2
• In complete combustion for alkanes, the reactants are the alkane and oxygen gas (O2), and the products are water (initially in a gaseous state - H2)) and carbon dioxide gas (CO2)
• In incomplete combustion, same reactants, but the CO2 in the products may be replaced with either a C or a CO.
• Combustion (aka burning) is an exothermic reaction


EDIT: Beaten by taiga (but my answer looks better)

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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 11:10:41 am »
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You have to know that combustion of hydrocarbons involve oxygen in the reactants, heat as a catalyst and carbon dioxide and H2O as products. From there on you should be able to write out the unbalanced equation then balance it. :)
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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 11:14:45 am »
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THANKS EVERYBODY!!!!  I actually understand it now!!!!!!!!!!!  YAY ME!!! :smitten:

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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 11:35:57 am »
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So, combustion is the reaction with oxygen... I'm doing complete combustion for all these, but if it is incomplete, CO2 will be replaced with either CO (carbon monoxide) or C (carbon).

A) 2C2H6 + 7O2 --> 4CO2 + 6H2O

B) 2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O

C) 2C4H10 + 13O2 -> 8CO2 + 10H2O

Required theory:
• For alkanes: CnH2n + 2
• In complete combustion for alkanes, the reactants are the alkane and oxygen gas (O2), and the products are water (initially in a gaseous state - H2)) and carbon dioxide gas (CO2)
• In incomplete combustion, same reactants, but the CO2 in the products may be replaced with either a C or a CO.
• Combustion (aka burning) is an exothermic reaction


EDIT: Beaten by taiga (but my answer looks better)

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But yes pi is right, definitely need to know about incomplete combustion and stuff. Though it is not huge on exams, schools may place it on SACs.

It takes some practice to understand the steps required to balance the equation, but once you get there it should be simple. Btw, remember to simplify the equation as you would in mathematics :)

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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 12:12:09 pm »
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More tips for *cheating* the balancing of alkane complete combustion

1. For alkanes: CnH2n + 2
2. The alkane will always have a '2' as its 'coefficient'
3. The H2O will always have '2n + 2' as its 'coefficient'
4. The CO2 will always have '2n' as its coefficient
5. The O2 will always have '(n) + (2n +2) - 1' = '3n + 1' as its coefficient

eg. Octane complete combustion:
n = 8 (rule 1)
Octane has 2 as coefficient (rule 2).
H2O will have: 2n + 2 = 16 + 2 = 18 as coefficient (rule 3).
CO2 will have: 2n = 16 as coefficient (rule 4).
O2 will have: 3n + 1 = 24 + 1 = 25 as coefficient (rule 5)

Therefore:
2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O


Just in case you prefer the mathsy way of doing it... (although I prefer knowing how to balance stuff out normally...)

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Re: Can you guys help me out on a couple of questions???
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 01:27:27 pm »
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More tips for *cheating* the balancing of alkane complete combustion

1. For alkanes: CnH2n + 2
2. The alkane will always have a '2' as its 'coefficient'
3. The H2O will always have '2n + 2' as its 'coefficient'
4. The CO2 will always have '2n' as its coefficient
5. The O2 will always have '(n) + (2n +2) - 1' = '3n + 1' as its coefficient

eg. Octane complete combustion:
n = 8 (rule 1)
Octane has 2 as coefficient (rule 2).
H2O will have: 2n + 2 = 16 + 2 = 18 as coefficient (rule 3).
CO2 will have: 2n = 16 as coefficient (rule 4).
O2 will have: 3n + 1 = 24 + 1 = 25 as coefficient (rule 5)

Therefore:
2C8H18 + 25O2 -> 16CO2 + 18H2O


Just in case you prefer the mathsy way of doing it... (although I prefer knowing how to balance stuff out normally...)

I really like that tip/shortcut, good method for checking your answers.

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