Monash Parkville guys

[kenhung123]

Ok, so which books do we really need to read...theres a bit too much info...
Also I bought lab coats and glasses, did I get jibbed?!

MOD EDIT: Fixed topic title typo.

[kenhung123]

Also can some past student clarify the importance of recommended books?
And even though they say required, are there any that you personally found useless?
Is it possible to get a newer edition for a book because its quite likely you won't be able to sell the older?

Thanks in advance!

[Toothpaste]

Ok, so which books do we really need to read...theres a bit too much info...
Also I bought lab coats and glasses, did I get jibbed?!

You should ask your mentor for O-Week on their recommendations if they know what they're doing.

Need:
APF21 - buy from PSA, upstairs Sissons building. Expensive as fuck, but you'll use it 4-5 years. I don't know when a new edition will be out but the 21st was new in 2009. You can't buy it anywhere else. If you can't afford it buy a second hand one, doesn't matter if it's APF20 or APF19.

Your first year prac manuals which you should get for free this week. You print most yourselves in later years.

Good to have:
Brown: Introduction to Organic Chemistry

One of the physiology books
Fox is dumbed down a lot (I don't like it)
Silverthorn (good layout, easy to understand)
Vanders (more detailed explanations)

Get later this year:
AMH2011 - you won't need this right now. Just sometime down the track you'll realise you do. Updates every single year but you only need one for university and you buy a new one for pre-reg since that's the rules.
(online AMH available here: https://login.ezproxy.lib.monash.edu.au/login?qurl=http://amh.hcn.net.au/ )
Sinko, Martin's physical pharmacy - great book for DD, still using it in 3rd year.

Maybe, if you struggle and prefer references (not really needed):
Atkinson & Hilgard's Introduction to Psychology (short topic but your lecture notes will be shithouse)
Atkins: Chemical Principles (would put this in don't bother but depends on how you study)

Don't bother this year:
Aulton, Pharmaceutics: science of dosage form design (get this second year if struggling with DDD)

Don't bother:
Mosby's medical dictionary
Winfield - Pharmaceutical Practice
Solutions to any books (just borrow from library/photocopy)
Molecular Model Set

You got jibbed but it doesn't matter. I guess it pays the MPSA for their activities.

[Toothpaste]

Also when walking down the staircase from lectures (especially the one at the back of the building/the front of the lecture room) - shut your mouths and walk quietly. I say this because first years have the upper lecture room and it affects our Echo360 recordings.

*shakes angry fist*

Dr. White will also go outside and yell at you then come back in and make a disparaging remark about first years.

[mystikal]

im selling my pharmacy books if you are interested

[kenhung123]

Ok, so which books do we really need to read...theres a bit too much info...
Also I bought lab coats and glasses, did I get jibbed?!

You should ask your mentor for O-Week on their recommendations if they know what they're doing.

Need:
APF21 - buy from PSA, upstairs Sissons building. Expensive as fuck, but you'll use it 4-5 years. I don't know when a new edition will be out but the 21st was new in 2009. You can't buy it anywhere else. If you can't afford it buy a second hand one, doesn't matter if it's APF20 or APF19.

Your first year prac manuals which you should get for free this week. You print most yourselves in later years.

Good to have:
Brown: Introduction to Organic Chemistry

One of the physiology books
Fox is dumbed down a lot (I don't like it)
Silverthorn (good layout, easy to understand)
Vanders (more detailed explanations)

Get later this year:
AMH2011 - you won't need this right now. Just sometime down the track you'll realise you do. Updates every single year but you only need one for university and you buy a new one for pre-reg since that's the rules.
(online AMH available here: https://login.ezproxy.lib.monash.edu.au/login?qurl=http://amh.hcn.net.au/ )
Sinko, Martin's physical pharmacy - great book for DD, still using it in 3rd year.

Maybe, if you struggle and prefer references (not really needed):
Atkinson & Hilgard's Introduction to Psychology (short topic but your lecture notes will be shithouse)
Atkins: Chemical Principles (would put this in don't bother but depends on how you study)

Don't bother this year:
Aulton, Pharmaceutics: science of dosage form design (get this second year if struggling with DDD)

Don't bother:
Mosby's medical dictionary
Winfield - Pharmaceutical Practice
Solutions to any books (just borrow from library/photocopy)
Molecular Model Set

You got jibbed but it doesn't matter. I guess it pays the MPSA for their activities.

Thanks a lot so helpful! Atm, we haven't been told anything about books yet and I expected to find out in O-week.
Btw, what clubs are actually worth joining? Many recommend VPSA for its 1 off fee for 4 years, true?

[mystikal]

yep vpsa is worth joining, uhhh the rest is up to your hobbies i guess... if u like really social events with other people outside campus i recommend asean but if u wanna stay within the campus peeps then mpsa = pretty good but expensive from memory...

[kenhung123]

The parkville lecturers, tutors and other lab people say that you can't be late even 10mins in a lecture, tute or lab otherwise they can mark you absent/kick you out. Are they really that strict? I mean is everyone really on time considering we require 100% attendance? I am only asking because sometimes I might get stuck behind with public transport...

[mystikal]

yes theya re strict especially for pracs... and tutes which require u to submit work... unfortunately 90% of the cohort takes public transport so if they can get there on time y cant u.... i dont mean to be harsh but its just how things are in parkville.. haha lectures they dont care if u turn up or not.... and tutes actually take attendance

[Toothpaste]

I've been kicked out of a test in first year for being late.

Just go get a medical certificate.

[kenhung123]

As in you can be late, get kicked out, go home and get a certificate then ask to resit?
@mystikal so do they care if you rock up late in a lecture?

Assuming you guys take public, how do you guys plan your weekly time table as in when to wake up, which train to catch etc? (As it changes weekly!)

[mystikal]

some lecturers care... some dont... but its like short lived thats y u enter at the back doors... for public transport just space it out urself... im pretty u know how long it takes u to get to parkville... for me it takes around and hr and abit so i take a 7:10 train to attend a 8:30 lecture.

[kenhung123]

Can I ask how many 8.30 lectures you got in semester 1 and does it change in semester 2? (We got 3!!!)

[Toothpaste]

some lecturers care... some dont... but its like short lived thats y u enter at the back doors... for public transport just space it out urself... im pretty u know how long it takes u to get to parkville... for me it takes around and hr and abit so i take a 7:10 train to attend a 8:30 lecture.

lol Jalal makes a big deal out of it depending on his mood. If he's angry he'll kick you out, if he's in a giggly mood he'll make fun of you. There was someone who cracked the shits, but I can't remember her name...

Can I ask how many 8.30 lectures you got in semester 1 and does it change in semester 2? (We got 3!!!)

Doesn't really change much at all. Should be two or three 8:30am lectures, same in second year. Gets better in third year.

As in you can be late, get kicked out, go home and get a certificate then ask to resit?
Assuming you guys take public, how do you guys plan your weekly time table as in when to wake up, which train to catch etc? (As it changes weekly!)

You re-sit a different paper depending on unit. One on one with the head of unit and the lecturer (oral exam). I'd rather just do the normal one with everyone else to not delay marks.

I plan it the night before... I just minus 1.5 hours off travel->uni but end up leaving an hour before. I drive so public transport timetables aren't an issue. Freeway cops are though.

[mystikal]

haha do u mean elizabbeth yuriev? she was a real b****.. 3rd year timetable is it really betta in what way haha just curious.