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luken93's Methods/Spesh Question thread...
« on: February 24, 2011, 07:06:46 pm »
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Hey guys, I thought I may as well make my own thread, but I'll have both Spesh + Methods in the one thread to save the clutter...

Anyways, first question:




The simultaneous linear equations

(1)...
(2)...

Have No Solution for.....
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Re: luken93's Methods/Spesh Question thread...
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 07:18:27 pm »
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Use matrices
For no solution det=0
(m-2)(m-3)-2*3=0
Simplify to get m= 0 and m = 5

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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 07:26:26 pm »
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That's what I got, however the answers are:

A. R \ {0,5}
B. R \ {0}
C. R\ {6}
D. m = 5
E. m = 0

I would've said A, but apparently not!
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 07:40:09 pm »
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you mean the anwer is m=0?
I just tried again using CAS for m=5, x=2-y
for m=0, yes there is no solutions

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 07:47:07 pm »
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You get no solutions when both lines have different equations but the same gradient. So sub in the value for m that fits that description and you should get the answer, which is m=0 in this case.

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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 07:52:32 pm »
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sajib, your method is quicker

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 08:06:18 pm »
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Helps when you've finished VCE  :P

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 08:21:21 pm »
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You get no solutions when both lines have different equations but the same gradient. So sub in the value for m that fits that description and you should get the answer, which is m=0 in this case.
So what was your actual method there? I rearranged them to make a linear y = equation, and then let both the gradients equal eachother which gave m = 0 and 5?
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 08:31:05 pm »
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Now that you've found the values of m, you have to verify which one gives no solutions. If you sub in into both equations, you get:




By rearranging the equations to make y the subject, you can see that both equations have the same gradients but different equations, so they are parrallel lines. Hence they give no solution. However, if we sub in , you get these two equations:




When simplified, these two equations are essentially indicate the same line, hence there is infinite no. of solutions. Therefore is your only answer.

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 08:35:08 pm »
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Aaahh, thanks for that
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 08:39:03 pm »
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Aaahh, thanks for that

Whenever you get these type of questions where you have to determine unique, infinite, no solutions etc, the important thing is to always verify your answers or its very easy to make a mistake. Unless you only get the one answer of course.

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 03:56:36 pm »
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SPESH Q
Looking for a nice solution to this, as any of mine get very messy :P

Let and
Express in modulus - Argument form:
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2011, 04:36:55 pm »
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Modulus is trivial.
For argument, the complex number is in the 4th quadrant.
So tan(x) = (1/cos(t))/(1/sin(t)) = sin(t)/cos(t) = tan(t), pi/2 < t < pi
x = arctan(tan(t)) = t, pi/2 < t < pi
But since x is in the 4th quadrant, then we have 0 < x < -pi/2.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2011, 04:57:16 pm »
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Thanks, I ended up getting it anyway. Essentials has a tendency to keep changing r cis (x) to -r cis (x - pi), but once you get used to it it's not so bad...
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Re: luken93's Methods/Spesh Question thread...
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2011, 09:25:51 pm »
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Is modulus-argument form just polar form? O_O
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