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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2011, 11:00:20 pm »
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Quote from: horizon on February 27, 2011, 10:49:53 pm
When the marks are sent off, is it ranked in your class or in the whole school?
whole school, hence why they are "meant to" cross mark everything
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 06:50:08 am »
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Is it normal for schools to base rankings on scores other than sacs? Because in further this year we just completed a sac on networks then straight afterwards we did another test to, as the teacher said "help with determining our rankings".
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2011, 07:33:28 am »
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Quote from: Hodgeyhodgey on February 28, 2011, 06:50:08 am
Is it normal for schools to base rankings on scores other than sacs? Because in further this year we just completed a sac on networks then straight afterwards we did another test to, as the teacher said "help with determining our rankings".
Theoretically, they have to tell you know what will be counted and what won't be, hence why they call them SACs. But I suppose if there is a discrepancy between a few close marks, they could do it to differentiate?

As with this thread, everything and anything is possible...
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2011, 03:43:04 pm »
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Quote from: Rohitpi on February 27, 2011, 07:43:11 pm
Quote from: werdna on February 27, 2011, 07:38:43 pm
I definitely knew of some teachers 'cranking up' English SAC scores for people who they think 'deserved' it, or to even out scores. I think teachers/VCE coordinators also send off predictive study scores or something to VCAA.

I think they do that in my school too. I know a guy who got 100/100 for his SACs (from his school) and definitely believes his mark was bumped up.
You're talking about K.L yea? I remember him saying that.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a common case, like generally it's irrelevant in an awesome cohort between first 10 ranks anyway..
 and it's really easy to distinguish between good and bad students in a crap cohort.
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2011, 07:46:42 pm »
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Quote from: Rohitpi on February 27, 2011, 07:43:11 pm
Quote from: werdna on February 27, 2011, 07:38:43 pm
I definitely knew of some teachers 'cranking up' English SAC scores for people who they think 'deserved' it, or to even out scores. I think teachers/VCE coordinators also send off predictive study scores or something to VCAA.

I think they do that in my school too. I know a guy who got 100/100 for his SACs (from his school) and definitely believes his mark was bumped up.
You're talking about K.L yea? I remember him saying that.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a common case, like generally it's irrelevant in an awesome cohort between first 10 ranks anyway..
 and it's really easy to distinguish between good and bad students in a crap cohort.

He was one of the guys, (who would have got 100/100 scaled anyway), but I've heard  of another one from the same year. So shifty.
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2011, 02:01:24 pm »
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My PE teacher never used to give us a percentage mark for our SACs, just a letter grade, which I thought was dodgy because the marks relative to grades could be varied so easily when sent away to VCAA.
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2011, 04:31:47 pm »
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Quote from: flash36 on March 01, 2011, 02:01:24 pm
My PE teacher never used to give us a percentage mark for our SACs, just a letter grade, which I thought was dodgy because the marks relatie to grades could be varied so easily when sent away to VCAA.

Yeah, I found out today that our English department is refusing to hand out actually marks on orals, just rough letter grades. Pretty frustrating.
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2011, 04:55:08 pm »
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- (Pretty sure) predictive scores are only used for error checking in the case that a student scores significantly higher or lower than predicted.
- Students should have the right to know their exact scores and where they could improve.
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2011, 06:03:50 pm »
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AFAIK, all that teachers provide as far as predictions are "indicative grades" for exams.
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2011, 09:55:00 pm »
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Quote from: m@tty on March 01, 2011, 06:03:50 pm
AFAIK, all that teachers provide as far as predictions are "indicative grades" for exams.

Yup, I heard that those are used if the student say, is hospitalised on the way to the exam, you won't totally fail but they'll take into account what your teacher(s) thought you would get in the exam.
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2011, 05:05:43 pm »
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Lets say if:
Rank 1 person (SACS) got 99% on their exam.
Rank 8 person (SACS) got 100% on their exam.

Who would get a higher study score?

What about:
Rank 1 person gets 0% (exam).
Rank 8 person gets 100% (exam).
Would that mean that the rank 8 person wouldn't be able to get a 50?
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2011, 05:11:50 pm »
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rank 1 would get higher, since we don't know what the 8th best exam score was
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2011, 05:14:07 pm »
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For the first situation id say the person ranked 1 would get the highest SS. And Rank 8s SS will depend on how well people ranked frmo 2-7 went.
The 2nd one is retarded lol not sure on what would happen. Id say that how the people ranked 2-7 went in the exams would have an influence on Rank 8s SS
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2011, 05:25:13 pm »
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When people say that the performance of others in the top ranks affects your study score, by how many points are you suggesting?

For example, I'm around rank 8/9 at the moment for BM in a really weak cohort. If I do really well on the exam, and the people higher than me in SACs get a lower exam score, what will my score look like? :S How will it have been affected by the others?
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Re: Ranks....
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2011, 05:15:38 pm »
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Quote from: werdna on March 21, 2011, 05:25:13 pm
When people say that the performance of others in the top ranks affects your study score, by how many points are you suggesting?

For example, I'm around rank 8/9 at the moment for BM in a really weak cohort. If I do really well on the exam, and the people higher than me in SACs get a lower exam score, what will my score look like? :S How will it have been affected by the others?

I also want to know this.
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