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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 09:22:33 pm »
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What a cringeworthy article. For someone that professes to care about learning, not once were enhanced learning outcomes mentioned. It seems like it was just fulfilling some sort of unjustified need for authority. Sorry, but those sorts of people frustrate me. I mean, put forward a damn argument, don't tell me about some loser handing over her frikkin earrings!!!! Holden Caulfield would be tearing his grey hairs out!
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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 10:41:33 pm »
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Completely ridiculous.
Not wanting to tie your hair back has nothing to do with teenage defiance. Rules are fine if there is a good reason behind them, but stupid rules are just that: stupid.
When I wear makeup to school it has nothing to do with being 'rebellious' for the sake of it. It is because I want to wear the damn makeup!
Teachers do not understand this concept very well.

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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 10:53:48 pm »
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Jane1234, may I ask, is your school co-ed?
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 11:05:28 pm »
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Jane1234, may I ask, is your school co-ed?
Maybe :P
Yeah it is... why? That shouldn't make much difference to the rules... aside from the obvious.

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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 11:19:42 pm »
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Jane1234, may I ask, is your school co-ed?
Maybe :P
Yeah it is... why? That shouldn't make much difference to the rules... aside from the obvious.

I don't particularly agree with this article.

I think the whole debate about "school uniform," shows distinguish between rich and poor if school uniform is not enforced and makes a big difference or whatever is quite bullshit.

In fact, encouraging school uniforms, generally, just makes people become desperate to look good when they hang out with friends with their casual wear and over stylize themselves to the extent they look like posers or what not.

Having said that, there are some merits to school uniforms, but how the article conveys it, is rubbish.  


@jane1234 I just wanted a laugh :x, not poking holes or anything. Hahaha, and to make you feel abit awkward ;D

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 11:34:12 pm »
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Hahaha, and to make you feel abit awkward ;D
Haha takes a bit more than that to make me feel awkward... :)

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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 12:25:31 am »
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Hahaha, and to make you feel abit awkward ;D
Haha takes a bit more than that to make me feel awkward... :)
Wanna see a dead body?

Haha, I'm kidding.
Yeah, this article is stupid.

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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 02:09:12 pm »
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I completely agree with the above article.

Children need to learn to conform, this is practice for the life of work which soon follows after school. No body likes a rebel. Wearing the same uniform allows them to be identified as belonging to a particular group and allows communication of those people within that group to feel less intimidated with each other if they were to talk/date/form friendships etc.


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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 02:44:41 pm »
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There are obviously some good, commonsense rules for uniform, like wearing leather shoes to protect your feet and that sort of thing. Uniforms beyond that are about the exertion of authority on students, the cultivation of equality (it's more difficult to differentiate people when they all wear the same thing) and to minimise distractions. I think that some schools do go over the top (for instance, I know someone who got suspended because they failed to wear their school hat on a train or tram, which is just plain silly), but I seem to remember to prefer having a uniform, because then getting ready for school was much easier and quicker.

When I was in around year 9 or so, we got a new vice principal who was really harsh on uniform. Our uniform changed from polo shirts and stuff to 'proper' shirts and the option of wearing a tie, and the school logo becoming emblazoned to the pants. Nailpolish, bracelets, hairdye, necklaces, dress and sock length became consistently under scrutiny. On the one hand it was a total waste of resources and teacher time trying to control what is a pretty trivial matter and parents having to buy so many new and expensive clothes. On the other hand, I think the change of dress did give the students some more self-respect somehow, maybe just symbolically. I'm not sure whether or not it's worth it. I think you could probably cultivate self-respect in some other less expensive yet more radical way.

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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2011, 01:11:29 am »
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I like school uniforms. In the mornings, that's all you have to worry about getting changed.



But i sometimes wonder about the hygiene of the uniform, especially if you only have one jumper that you may have to wear all week, or two... just wondering.
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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2011, 10:05:24 am »
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i agree with the article.
it's true, think about the classes with teachers who let you listen to ipods. Possibly one of the least controlled classes (takes the teacher a few tries before everyone starts listening) and maybe least productive..[but that would depend on what other classes you take]. Also, that's probably the teacher you happen to go 'oh, he/she won't mind... he/she's nice as' before you wag class,  not hand in homework, etcetc.

Iuno, i like uniforms in elite schools, or schools in general, i like the sense of belonging after a while, plus i don't have to have a massive wardrobe yet.

In terms of learning, well, that just depends on your school LOL
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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2011, 10:51:03 am »
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i agree with the article.
it's true, think about the classes with teachers who let you listen to ipods. Possibly one of the least controlled classes (takes the teacher a few tries before everyone starts listening) and maybe least productive..[but that would depend on what other classes you take]. Also, that's probably the teacher you happen to go 'oh, he/she won't mind... he/she's nice as' before you wag class,  not hand in homework, etcetc.

But what do iPods have to do with uniform? Are you suggesting that people not wearing uniform are distracted and not on task, generally?

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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2011, 10:56:08 am »
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Your right...

There is a direct correlation, people who don't wear uniforms statistically listen to ipods more.
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Re: Why school uniform really matters
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2011, 10:58:07 am »
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Your right...

There is a direct correlation, people who don't wear uniforms statistically listen to ipods more.

They've done a study on this?