Referencing

[kenhung123]

When referencing and placing numbers where appropriate to indicate citations, would that number represent everything from previous citation?

E.g. A neuron is a special type of cell that is found in the bodies of most animals (all members of the group Eumetazoa, to be precise—this excludes only sponges and a few other very simple animals). [1]    The features that define a neuron are electrical excitability and the presence of synapses, which are complex membrane junctions used to transmit signals to other cells. The body's neurons, plus the glial cells that give them structural and metabolic support, together constitute the nervous system. In vertebrates, the majority of neurons belong to the central nervous system, but some reside in peripheral ganglia, and many sensory neurons are situated in sensory organs such as the retina and cochlea.[2] <=== Does this source 2 represent everything from 1?

[kenhung123]

so as long as all the sentences come from same source, i just cite once

[Russ]

Source [2] does not contain the information from [1], it contains all the information between [1] and [2] that required referencing.

[kenhung123]

Thanks Russ, so lets say a sentence in between [1] and [2] contained source [3] that means I need to reference like this:

A neuron is a special type of cell that is found in the bodies of most animals (all members of the group Eumetazoa, to be precise—this excludes only sponges and a few other very simple animals). [1]    The features that define a neuron are electrical excitability and the presence of synapses, which are complex membrane junctions used to transmit signals to other cells. [2][3]   The body's neurons, plus the glial cells that give them structural and metabolic support, together constitute the nervous system. In vertebrates, the majority of neurons belong to the central nervous system, but some reside in peripheral ganglia, and many sensory neurons are situated in sensory organs such as the retina and cochlea.[2]

Which implies from the start to [1] contains info from source 1 only, from [1] to [2][3] contains info from [2] and [3] only and finally from [2][3] to [2] contains info from source [2] only.

[rustic_metal]

Fuck referencing. My essay is right; deal with it, bitches.

[kenhung123]

How do we reference something when it is known? E.g. you were taught something then used it in your essay, the person reading may be quite suss as in "how did he know that without any sources?" Do I need to reference a particular person told me this information or?

[jasoN-]

I remember one of the lecturers/tutors said if you learned it from someone (maybe a highschool teacher or something) you need to validate this by finding it in a more reliable source.

So pretty much find what you learnt in a book/respectable website or something like that, should be good + then u can reference it

[Russ]

You can do personal source/interview references but if it's general knowledge or not advanced it definitely doesn't need referencing. They're not out to crucify you on citations (maybe in Law actually, but in 1st year science you're fine)

[kenhung123]

Hmm ok good idea. Also with regards to my initial question, if the paragraph from [1] to [2] are separated into 2 paragraphs source [2] still applies to everything after [1] and before [2] right?

[Glockmeister]

Yep, pretty much.

The way I like to think about citation is that they link to sentences. Where there is a citation, it refers to the sentence that precede it.

[kenhung123]

A citation cannot apply to more than 1 sentence then?

[Russ]

No it can, that's just a way to think about it.