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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #165 on: April 13, 2011, 04:57:45 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 04:53:26 pm
Honestly, if the death of your pet impacts you to the extent where your study is seriously affected and entry into your course is in danger as a result...All I can say is you need to harden up.

I chewed my potato today for dinner and he was my favourite one on the plate, looking forward to automatic entry into Monash med by your standards.

That was an incredibly unnecessary and insensitive post.
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #166 on: April 13, 2011, 04:58:46 pm »
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Ghost, if you bet someone in your ATAR by 10 points and they got the place you didn't because their pet died, what would you say?
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #167 on: April 13, 2011, 05:02:26 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 04:58:46 pm
Ghost, if you bet someone in your ATAR by 10 points and they got the place you didn't because their pet died, what would you say?

We'd have alot of abuse of this system.


And then we'd have discrimination,

Does the value of a goldfish hold equivalence to a dog as pets?  The complexity!
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #168 on: April 13, 2011, 05:03:01 pm »
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I ate my fish when it died....

Joke.
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #169 on: April 13, 2011, 05:03:09 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 04:58:46 pm
Ghost, if you bet someone in your ATAR by 10 points and they got the place you didn't because their pet died, what would you say?

Certainly wouldn't publicly belittle their loss.

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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #170 on: April 13, 2011, 05:05:08 pm »
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He's using the death of his pet to gain entry into a course, that's not a loss, he's immorally exploiting his pet for gain in this situation. Unless, your suggesting his ability to study in year 12 has been genuinely impacted by the death of a rabbit to the point where he deserves people like you or me's uni place?
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #171 on: April 13, 2011, 05:06:45 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 05:05:08 pm
He's using the death of his pet to gain entry into a course, that's not a loss, he's immorally exploiting his pet for gain in this situation. Unless, your suggesting his ability to study in year 12 has been genuinely impacted by the death of a rabbit to the point where he deserves people like you or me's uni place?
I can't see why not. People cry over pets. Crying has a negative emotional effect with biological release of depressing hormones/neurotransmitters.

Just because you and I don't care about animals doesn't mean others don't.

I applaud those who can resist meat. Ah, meat. Meat...:P
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #172 on: April 13, 2011, 05:08:15 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 05:05:08 pm
He's using the death of his pet to gain entry into a course, that's not a loss, he's immorally exploiting his pet for gain in this situation. Unless, your suggesting his ability to study in year 12 has been genuinely impacted by the death of a rabbit to the point where he deserves people like you or me's uni place?
I can't see why not. People cry over pets. Crying has a negative emotional effect with biological release of depressing hormones/neurotransmitters.

Just because you and I don't care about animals doesn't mean others don't.

I applaud those who can resist meat. Ah, meat. Meat...:P


Does the value of a goldfish hold equivalence to a dog as pets?

So , we are meant to have a criteria, to measure depression over pets.

Fantastic.
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #173 on: April 13, 2011, 05:09:12 pm »
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All pets are equal in their own right ;D

...but Snakes rule.
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #174 on: April 13, 2011, 05:09:40 pm »
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People cry all the time, it's part of life. ATAR that is quite possibly the weakest argument you have presented ever. Are you suggesting anybody who cries in the state deserves a Uni place ahead of you?
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #175 on: April 13, 2011, 05:10:02 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 05:09:40 pm
People cry all the time, it's part of life. ATAR that is quite possibly the weakest argument you have presented ever. Are you suggesting anybody who cries in the state deserves a Uni place ahead of you?
Are you taking me literally? I thought it was quite clear I was not serious >.>
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #176 on: April 13, 2011, 05:10:09 pm »
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Quote from: ATAR on April 13, 2011, 05:09:12 pm
All pets are equal in their own right ;D

...but Snakes rule.


So, if I have many goldfish pets die, does that boost my SEAS priority?. Obviously, I have suffered much more than other people have.


PS: Lol, you were joking, nvmmm xD
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #177 on: April 13, 2011, 05:10:21 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 05:05:08 pm
He's using the death of his pet to gain entry into a course, that's not a loss, he's immorally exploiting his pet for gain in this situation. Unless, your suggesting his ability to study in year 12 has been genuinely impacted by the death of a rabbit to the point where he deserves people like you or me's uni place?

I can't comprehend why you're arguing so viciously over kazdawg's post. They don't have a SEAS grant! They aren't exploiting the loss of their pet, because back here in reality the loss of a pet doesn't qualify for an exemption into University.
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #178 on: April 13, 2011, 05:11:57 pm »
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Quote from: Bonifacio on April 13, 2011, 04:58:46 pm
Ghost, if you bet someone in your ATAR by 10 points and they got the place you didn't because their pet died, what would you say?
It's a fair point,
someone from my school got 88 last year and got into biomed.
I could only imagine how many people who got a few below the cutoff and didn't make it, it's quite unfair in some cases.. not like everyone has a perfect house-hold.
I've heard of stories with blind people and other disabilities get in the high 90's.
As far as i see it, unless you're in and out of hospital daily, or something else tragic, you shouldn't have such a big advantage over other kids.
This doesn't go to say that I won't use it should i need to in futuro .
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Re: How did/do you 'play the system'?
« Reply #179 on: April 13, 2011, 05:12:43 pm »
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Yes but he was enquiring whether it would or wouldn't, surely if it would produce a SEAS grant, he would plan to utilise it.

If it would produce and SEAS grant and he isn't planning on utilising it, surely that is trolling?
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