Honestly how hard is it to get a 45+?

[luken93]

@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?

Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know.

If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.

Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...

Hehehe.

TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.

I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.

IDK man, its not coincedence that the people who get 48+ in subjects were those who put the extra mile in. I think as far as luck's role, its more when you get bad luck that you get affected. Unless that's what you all meant the whole time.

ouch, is that because I got 47 I didn't put the extra mile in? I'm offended man

[xZero]

@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?

Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know.

If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.

Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...

Hehehe.

TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.

I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.

IDK man, its not coincedence that the people who get 48+ in subjects were those who put the extra mile in. I think as far as luck's role, its more when you get bad luck that you get affected. Unless that's what you all meant the whole time.

well to me luck is anything that can't be controlled, eg. the time of the exam (some people's brain function better during morning and such) or anything that may affect your mood. And yes i think it can make you go from a 50 to a 45

[burbs]

@ Menang, not really related to this but I just realised MacRob doesn't have any 40+ scores for BM? Is it not offered?

Yup, MacRob doesn't offer BM, as far as I know.

If MacRob did it we wouldn't get any.

Exactly my thoughts. You probably wouldn't have gotten a premiers award if they did it...

Hehehe.

TBH, I wouldn't say luck hold that massive a part. Yes it is important, but not to the extent of 45-50.

I would definitely say so - for almost all subjects, but particularly English.

IDK man, its not coincedence that the people who get 48+ in subjects were those who put the extra mile in. I think as far as luck's role, its more when you get bad luck that you get affected. Unless that's what you all meant the whole time.

ouch, is that because I got 47 I didn't put the extra mile in? I'm offended man

You got the bad luck I was talking about. (But no that's not what I meant)

[lexitu]

I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work.  I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.

[taiga]

When I came out of the English exam I thought I got somewhere between 38 and 50. That's the level to which I wasn't able to quantify my efforts any further. If I can't figure out what I'm going to get after putting in the work, how can you figure out how much work you have to put in in order to get a certain score?

Whilst that may not apply to all subjects equally, a lot depends on how you go on the day.

[HERculina]

wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? 

[luken93]

I was gonna say. And yeah, it wasn't an exam that greatly suited what I wanted/intended, considering I got a 60/60 on the previous year's exam 2 days before from an examiner...

Another example, the cone of death on methods. Killed a lot of people who may have done better, ultimately you have to be the best to get the mark, but VCE is about applying what you've been prepared for, not being sprung upon.

[burbs]

I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work.  I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.

Absolutely. I just think its more bad luck that affects people, and good luck rarely.

wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject?  

Probably safe, but it depends more on that subject than the ATAR scores.

[jane1234]

wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject?  

My school is the same... I think the people above you in SACs have to ace the exam as well... Though I've not known anyone from my school to get 45+ if they were less than rank #1...

[lexitu]

I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work.  I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.

Absolutely. I just think its more bad luck that affects people, and good luck rarely.

wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject?  

Probably safe, but it depends more on that subject than the ATAR scores.

Sweet, I agree with that too

[burbs]

I reckon generally what you are saying is true - people make their own destiny and study score - but you sort of only have to look at some VNers to see how "luck" can play its role. For example, EZ received 45 in English when we all rate him extremely highly and I'm sure he put in a lot of work - and quality work.  I consider myself fortunate to have had a great exam day for English - I came out of that exam knowing that I did really well. Conversely, I was disappointed with PE and think I deserved more - either my own failure with exam-pressure or poor marking / etc.

Absolutely. I just think its more bad luck that affects people, and good luck rarely.

wat about if you're in a low-achieving school that only gets one, two or sometimes no one over 99. do you have to be ranked first to get over 45 for a subject? 

Probably safe, but it depends more on that subject than the ATAR scores.

Sweet, I agree with that too

I wasn't trying to argue as much as trying to clarify what you meant!

[lexitu]

Haha yeah, I'm just confirming that we're on the same path

[luken93]

Haha yeah, I'm just confirming that we're on the same path

That's probably a good thing after some of the controversies tonight...
(dw mods, im not delving into it )

[Zien]

Might be going off on a little tangent here, but I personally don't see what the hype over MacRob is about (and Melbourne High). Maybe it was made as a joke, but to say that you won't have a chance because MacRob doesn't offer the subject.. = =''

[burbs]

Might be going off on a little tangent here, but I personally don't see what the hype over MacRob is about (and Melbourne High). Maybe it was made as a joke, but to say that you won't have a chance because MacRob doesn't offer the subject.. = =''

It's a bit of a running joke at MHS.