How to get a 50 in ENGLISH?~!!

[lacoste]

Yes, that is the question, how many people each year get a 50 and how hard is it to get it? does it matter which school you go to?

Post away!!

cheers

[/0]

98 people got it in 2007, from a range of schools. Generally the more academic schools will have more 50s but that's expected, you can get 50s from any school as long as you work hard.

(59 got 49, 93 got 48, 111 got 47, 160 got 46, 224 got 45)

[Nick]

If you have the work ethic and the dedication to do well, there is no reason why your school could adversely impact your chances of scoring well.

[ganges]

If you have the work ethic and the dedication to do well, there is no reason why your school could adversely impact your chances of scoring well.

The school can impact your chances.
This can be determined by how tough they mark your SACS. If they mark it way too easy (like my school where even all the dumbasses are getting As) then your SAC marks would get scaled down and ruin your chances of getting a 50.

[costargh]

If you have the work ethic and the dedication to do well, there is no reason why your school could adversely impact your chances of scoring well.

The school can impact your chances.
This can be determined by how tough they mark your SACS. If they mark it way too easy (like my school where even all the dumbasses are getting As) then your SAC marks would get scaled down and ruin your chances of getting a 50.

Wrong

[ganges]

how come?

[costargh]

To get a 50 you basically need a perfect exam mark or there abouts. And your SACs need to be all very high like A+ range... so how do you come to the conclusion that a person who gets a perfect/ near perfect exam mark and high SAC marks being marked down because of the other people in his/her cohort of students?

That sought of logic comes to this conclusion:

Wow, this person got a an excellent external mark (perfect exam mark)
Wow, this person was ranked in the top few students in their school with an internal mark of A+

But hmmm appears that the other people in his/her school didn't do that well.... so regardless of his/her own individual brilliance and marks, he/she cant get a 50...

[lacoste]

thanks for replies.

so basically if i get the 1st SAC ranking in my school and a high A+ exam mark, then a 50 is possible?

and is it the external marks that will moderate the SAC marks?

is it true that the 1st SAC ranking gets the top external exam mark?

[RD]

thanks for replies.

so basically if i get the 1st SAC ranking in my school and a high A+ exam mark, then a 50 is possible?

and is it the external marks that will moderate the SAC marks?

yes and yes

is it true that the 1st SAC ranking gets the top external exam mark?

exam mark never changes, so whoever gets top external exam mark (even if the person ranked last) will always keep it.

[Mao]

To get a 50 you basically need a perfect exam mark or there abouts. And your SACs need to be all very high like A+ range... so how do you come to the conclusion that a person who gets a perfect/ near perfect exam mark and high SAC marks being marked down because of the other people in his/her cohort of students?

That sought of logic comes to this conclusion:

Wow, this person got a an excellent external mark (perfect exam mark)
Wow, this person was ranked in the top few students in their school with an internal mark of A+

But hmmm appears that the other people in his/her school didn't do that well.... so regardless of his/her own individual brilliance and marks, he/she cant get a 50...

right conclusion, wrong reasoning

if you rank first in SACs and ace the exam, then you take your own exam score [or thereabouts] as your moderated SAC, i.e. very high => 50.

if you are not ranked first and have a not-so-brilliant cohort, then chances of 50 are very low.

even if you do go to a crappy school, you can still achieve high. you just gotta make sure you are ahead of everyone in your crappy cohort.

[humph]

Hmmm... I did pretty well in the exam, obviously (though probably not perfectly, I reckon I dropped some marks in the language analysis section). But my SAC marks weren't perfect. We did six SACs for english; I got A+ in four of them, and A in two of them (interestingly enough, those two were the essays on the texts that I did in the exam. Strange...). Even my A+s weren't perfect; I think I got full marks in one or two of them, but the other two were only just A+. And the rest of my year level were similar; only three people got A+ for every SAC. I was ranked somewhere in the top ten for English, but probably not the top 5. And yet, at the end of the year, four people from my school got 50 in English.

Moral of the story: you can get 50 for the course even if you don't blitz the SACs. On the other hand, you obviously have to do reasonably well in the SACs. And you pretty much have no chance of getting 50 if you don't get at least 58/60 on the exam.

[Peter123@]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
 thats not right if okay i get B+ for sacs aight and the top of my class gets A+ then what happens is i try to get a better EXAM MARK THAN THE TOP STUDENT THEN I WILL GET HIS SAC MARK AND THE EXAM MARK... get it .... so usually people ask naly me but that ain't fair well guess what usualy if u get B+ then ur liablr to get a B+ in the exam so it works out for the long run...

so u try ur best in every thing.. EVERYTHING and in return u will get 50


info is from vcaa it's self aight so u can't argue with that

[Mao]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
 thats not right if okay i get B+ for sacs aight and the top of my class gets A+ then what happens is i try to get a better EXAM MARK THAN THE TOP STUDENT THEN I WILL GET HIS SAC MARK AND THE EXAM MARK... get it .... so usually people ask naly me but that ain't fair well guess what usualy if u get B+ then ur liablr to get a B+ in the exam so it works out for the long run...

so u try ur best in every thing.. EVERYTHING and in return u will get 50


info is from vcaa it's self aight so u can't argue with that

sadly I can argue with that, because your interpretation of it is completely incorrect.

If I rank after another student then blitz the exam, I take the appropriate ranking exam performance as my SAC [i.e. not mine because I did not rank first in SACs] and my own exam performance [which i absoltely blitzed]
hence, to not rank first then get a 50 require a very strong cohort behind you, and that is rarely the case except for a few schools.

humphdogg's case is an example of a very strong cohort, where a group of students all perform very well in the exam. consequently, the SAC performance wouldn't matter that much as the difference in ranking does not correlate to a huge drop in scores.

in case of a not-so-strong cohort and you are not ranked first, the chances of 50 are very slim, though 40+ is still achieveable.

[elaine]

A+. And the rest of my year level were similar; only three people got A+ for every SAC. I was ranked somewhere in the top ten for English, but probably not the top 5. And yet, at the end of the year, four people from my school got 50 in English.

woah, is this melbourne high?

[RD]

A+. And the rest of my year level were similar; only three people got A+ for every SAC. I was ranked somewhere in the top ten for English, but probably not the top 5. And yet, at the end of the year, four people from my school got 50 in English.

woah, is this melbourne high?

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School:     St Kevin's College Toorak 2006