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cubic polynomails
« on: April 25, 2011, 03:37:03 pm »
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1. Values of x in the domain x[-5,4] where is in the set x E (a,b) find the value of b

2. given (x+a)(x+3)(x-2)=x^3+bx^2+cx+30 find a,b,c.

3. x^3+Ax-12 is exactly divisible by x+3. after finding the constant, A, use it to solve the equation x^3+Ax-12=0 to find x values.

I have no clue on any of these. any help guidance would be appreciated thanks :)
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 03:44:08 pm »
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2) expand the equation and it should be straight forward from there

3) use factor theorem, if x^3+Ax-12 = 0, then when x = -3, x^3+Ax-12 will also = 0 since x+3 is a factor. Use that to find A, use long division/any other method to find the other factor and solve for x.
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 04:37:04 pm »
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2. given (x+a)(x+3)(x-2)=x^3+bx^2+cx+30 find a,b,c.


expand the we get:



Gather like terms



Equate co-efficents:







Solve the equations you get:







Correct me anyone if I'm wrong.
 
3. x^3+Ax-12 is exactly divisible by x+3. after finding the constant, A, use it to solve the equation x^3+Ax-12=0 to find x values.











Therefore





Long division/short division
You should get:





Again- correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 08:04:02 pm »
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thank you!! helped and i understood it :)

if possible i no this is stupid, could you go over how to expand a cubic quickly, hoilidays have turned my brain into mush,
and any idea for the first one?....should i jsut graph it on the calc?
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 08:09:16 pm »
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1. Values of x in the domain x[-5,4] where (Image removed from quote.) is in the set x E (a,b) find the value of b

2. given (x+a)(x+3)(x-2)=x^3+bx^2+cx+30 find a,b,c.

3. x^3+Ax-12 is exactly divisible by x+3. after finding the constant, A, use it to solve the equation x^3+Ax-12=0 to find x values.

I have no clue on any of these. any help guidance would be appreciated thanks :)
First one:



factorise, then solve for zeros, then the cases come out nicely, no need to graph, algebra does it nicely.
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 08:19:33 pm »
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thanks true tears :)
i cant put the question up because it requires a graph and i dont no anywhere to do it. but i have a cubic graph, with the three turning points labelled, and the question is asking me to use the info on the graph,  find values of a,b,c,d in the equation
p(x)=ax^3+bx^2+cx+d...

any ideas :S
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 08:25:09 pm »
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hint: let p'(x) = 0. now use turning points (although there would only be two i think).
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 08:26:11 pm »
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thanks true tears :)
i cant put the question up because it requires a graph and i dont no anywhere to do it. but i have a cubic graph, with the three turning points labelled, and the question is asking me to use the info on the graph,  find values of a,b,c,d in the equation
p(x)=ax^3+bx^2+cx+d...

any ideas :S

a cubic graph with 3 turning points?
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 08:33:08 pm »
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sorry not 3 turning points! i meant 3 points labelled on the graph :S
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 08:35:38 pm »
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Are the three points the x-axis intercepts?
If they are then:
(let the x xis intercepts be 3, 5 and -6, for example)
y=m(x-3)(x-5)(x+6)
Then sub in some other point to solve for m (which accounts for any dilations)
then equate coefficients by expanding m(x-3)(x-5)(x+6) and solving
m(x-3)(x-5)(x+6)=ax^3+bx^2+cx+d
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 08:46:33 pm »
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even if they weren't x-intercepts, all you need to do is sub the points into the equation, and solve the three equations simultaneously.
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 08:47:47 pm »
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even if they weren't x-intercepts, all you need to do is sub the points into the equation, and solve the three equations simultaneously.
true ... but I dont like simultaneous equations :D
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2011, 02:14:26 pm »
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okay so
my threee points are
(0,8) (2,0) (3,8)

would my equations look like
p(8)=a(0)^3+b(0)^2+c(0)+d

p(0)=a(02)^3+b(2)^2+c(2)+d

p(8)=a(3)^3+b(3)^2+c(3)+d

i assume the y value goes where the p(x) or is that the x value?
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2011, 02:29:19 pm »
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it should be p(0)=a(0)^3+b(0)^2+c(0)+d, 8=a(0)^3+b(0)^2+c(0)+d etc
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Re: cubic polynomails
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2011, 02:33:42 pm »
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me again :)

so i have done this with the last question above (finding the equation) and subbed in all my values and have a set of simulataneous equations looking like this

when the point (0,8) is subbed in i am left with
d=8
sub in (2,0) the equation is- 0=8a+4b+2c+8
sub in (3,8) the equatio is 8=27a+9b+3c+8

my next question is what do i do next? how do i solve 3 simulataneous equations?
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