Postgraduate spots held for Year 12s at University of Melbourne

[Edmund]

There will probably be a cap on the number of guaranteed entry places. Otherwise it seems rather impossible for those with ATAR 85-95 to stand a chance... So perhaps those with >96 ATAR will be guaranteed a spot based on GPA?

[iamdan08]

Chill out dude; and everyone else stop getting your hopes up. This has been around for almost a year now and was just waiting for it to be finalised. The 96 Enter only applies to a handful of postgraduate courses. Medicine and Dentistry still has the required enter of 99.9+ for CSP and 99.00+ for Full Fee.

Refer to:
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/entry-requirements/guaranteed-entry
and the MD and the DD website.

This.

[Massofbubbles]

Stonecold 94.0 is for FFP spots in courses that have a CSP cut-off of 96.0.

Chill out dude; and everyone else stop getting your hopes up. This has been around for almost a year now and was just waiting for it to be finalised. The 96 Enter only applies to a handful of postgraduate courses. Medicine and Dentistry still has the required enter of 99.9+ for CSP and 99.00+ for Full Fee.

That article came out today, and it states "from next year it will lower academic hurdles within undergraduate degrees for guaranteed postgraduate places made available for school-leavers with high Year 12 scores."

[Peedles]

"The guaranteed pathway is only applicable to students who commenced at the University in 2008 or since. Students who began studying before that time are still able to apply for a graduate professional entry course but will not be considered under the guaranteed pathway policy, regardless of their ENTER."

Look at the FAQ

[simpak]

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down because they won't have their places if they don't get their H2A average anyway, and not all of those people will keep a nice and neat H2A average.  Also, the majority of them will still take entry testing and apply like normal people in the hopes of CSP or to apply to other course (eg, if I had a full fee guaranteed entry to med here, why would I not try my luck at CSP here and elsewhere by applying like a person without guaranteed entry).

Most people use guaranteed entry as a safety net, not as a first priority.

[stonecold]

Chill out dude; and everyone else stop getting your hopes up. This has been around for almost a year now and was just waiting for it to be finalised. The 96 Enter only applies to a handful of postgraduate courses. Medicine and Dentistry still has the required enter of 99.9+ for CSP and 99.00+ for Full Fee.

Refer to:
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/entry-requirements/guaranteed-entry
and the MD and the DD website.

This.

This is still the old policy.  I have a copy of it saved from ~8 months ago, and it is pretty much the same.
The article states that "ultra-high-achievers" will have hurdle requirements removed.  

They are pretty much going back to what they used to have I believe.  (i.e. it will basically be combined biomed/science with MD, similar to what USyd offers.)

If they were to lower the cut off for MD, it wouldn't be by much.  Personally can't see it happening.  Would make sense if they did it for the JD though because all of the best students are going to Monash.

[Peedles]

Stonecold 94.0 is for FFP spots in courses that have a CSP cut-off of 96.0.

Chill out dude; and everyone else stop getting your hopes up. This has been around for almost a year now and was just waiting for it to be finalised. The 96 Enter only applies to a handful of postgraduate courses. Medicine and Dentistry still has the required enter of 99.9+ for CSP and 99.00+ for Full Fee.

That article came out today, and it states "from next year it will lower academic hurdles within undergraduate degrees for guaranteed postgraduate places made available for school-leavers with high Year 12 scores."

I think what they mean here, is that from next year since the Guaranteed Scheme has just been finalised now like i said. That for those who completed VCE in 2008 and 2009 will be able to acquire entry into Doctor of Physio for example if they had attained an enter of 96+. It doesn't mean that those who completed VCE last year or the year before are excluded. So everyone CHILLOUT !!! lol

[Peedles]

Chill out dude; and everyone else stop getting your hopes up. This has been around for almost a year now and was just waiting for it to be finalised. The 96 Enter only applies to a handful of postgraduate courses. Medicine and Dentistry still has the required enter of 99.9+ for CSP and 99.00+ for Full Fee.

Refer to:
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/entry-requirements/guaranteed-entry
and the MD and the DD website.

This.

This is still the old policy.  I have a copy of it saved from ~8 months ago, and it is pretty much the same.
The article states that "ultra-high-achievers" will have hurdle requirements removed. 

They are pretty much going back to what they used to have I believe.  (i.e. it will basically be combined biomed/science with MD, similar to what USyd offers.)

If they were to lower the cut off for MD, it wouldn't be by much.  Personally can't see it happening.  Would make sense if they did it for the JD though because all of the best students are going to Monash.

How is that the old policy if it has only been implemented this year?

[stonecold]

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down because they won't have their places if they don't get their H2A average anyway, and not all of those people will keep a nice and neat H2A average.  Also, the majority of them will still take entry testing and apply like normal people in the hopes of CSP or to apply to other course (eg, if I had a full fee guaranteed entry to med here, why would I not try my luck at CSP here and elsewhere by applying like a person without guaranteed entry).

Most people use guaranteed entry as a safety net, not as a first priority.

But look what is says mavis!!!

"From next year it will lower academic hurdles within undergraduate degrees for guaranteed postgraduate places made available for school-leavers with high Year 12 scores. And in the case of the few ultra-high-performing, usually privately educated, school-leavers, the hurdles will be scrapped altogether. But the university won't lower guaranteed entry thresholds for undergraduate courses at the same time."

The H2A average thing could be gone.  :/

Edit:  Okay, from having read the article several times now, this is what I gather from it.

Cut offs will not change.

However...H2A average thing will be going down, and "ultra-high-achieving" students will not have to maintain any kind of average at all.

[Massofbubbles]

OMG OMG, EVERYONE RELAX!!

[Peedles]

Stonecold I'm close to 100% sure that your wrong.
The 94+ and 96+ is only an addition to the guaranteed entry scheme (which applies to a handful of courses) that they have on the 99+ guaranteed enter.

Refer to this e-mail i received in late november last year.

Dear student
 
I am writing to let you know of some important changes to the Guaranteed Pathways entry scheme for graduate study at the University of Melbourne. You have been identified as one of a number of students who may be affected.
 
The Guaranteed Pathways entry scheme was introduced in 2008 to give high-achieving school leavers some certainty about graduate school entry, upon completion of a University of Melbourne undergraduate degree. If you achieved an ENTER of 99 or above, you may already be familiar with this scheme.
 
Recently, some changes have been made to the eligibility criteria for the Guaranteed Pathways scheme. The ENTER (or ATAR, Australian Tertiary Admissions Rank, as it is now called), has been broadened for entry to some graduate courses through Guaranteed Pathways. This is being applied retrospectively, and as a current student, this means the changes may be of particular interest to you.
 
All students who attained an ENTER/ATAR of 94 or above may now be eligible for a Guaranteed Pathways place in a University of Melbourne graduate degree. You will still need to have achieved a minimum academic standard throughout your undergraduate studies to be eligible. As these requirements vary between each course, I recommend that you explore the many options available to you by checking the following website:
http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/school/guaranteed-entry
 
You may also find the following FAQs* to be helpful:
http://studentadmin-unimelb.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/studentadmin_unimelb.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5062
 
(*Please note: you will find all Guaranteed Pathways FAQs by entering ‘Guaranteed Pathways’ as a search term into the Information Directory search field in the above URL).
 
I encourage you to take this opportunity to think about your future as a graduate student.
 
Best wishes
John Dewar
Provost

[Massofbubbles]

I'd say that if their new guaranteed entry pathway makes the old one redundant they'd still have to honour the old pathway for current students that met the criteria.

[simpak]

Keep in mind that article was released by a newspaper, not by the university itself!  As somebody who has stretched truth in my own articles, or not really known what I have been saying, we need to wait for some official word or see the original press release before we can judge what will happen.

Secondly, what Massofbubbles says is totally right.  Maybe for those finishing high school this year, things will change but for our year of entry we won't be bothered with any of this - things will stay the same.  They will phase it out like they did the Melbourne model or anything else.

[stonecold]

Okay fair enough.  I wasn't aware that they had already changed it, and thought they were changing it again.  However, the academic requirements in the undergrad degrees are changing. This is new.

[Peedles]

There is no phasing out. This new scheme applies for all students under the new current melbourne model. If anyone attended the Medicine and Dentistry entry lectures this year. They emphasised this new addition to the current scheme quite clearly.