Commerce

[livelikeuwanna]

I was just wondering, how hard is the maths in Bcommerce at Melbourne uni?

[Collin Li]

It's statistics.

It isn't too hard (in my opinion). One thing I should point out is that many other fields require you to have at least some rudimentary understanding of statistics, so if you're thinking about Commerce versus Psychology, for example, bear in mind the maths won't be too different.

There is some simple maths in economics, but other than the first two introductory compulsory subjects on economics, you don't have to continue (and if you do, that's where most of the maths starts to come in)

[livelikeuwanna]

I'm doing further maths but I wanna get into commerce some how(is transferring possible?).
I'm concerned about whether I'd be able to transfer and what the content is like.
I've heard the maths in Bcomm @ Melb is a real killer.

[costargh]

If you want to do Commerce at The University of Melbourne, heres one way you can do it

1) Enroll in Bachelor of Arts at Melbourne and transfer 2nd year (use your breadth subjects in your 1st year to take subjects from the Commerce faculty BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TAKE THE MATHS METHODS EQUIVALENT SUBJECT)

[livelikeuwanna]

Okay. Cool. Thanks and congrats on your A+

[Collin Li]

You can also try a summer bridging course, as suggested by Eriny. Find some place where you can spend your summer to do the Methods equivalent. However, I'm not sure if UoM would set up a conditional offer for you.

You could try a transfer in the middle of the year, that sounds better than wasting a year in Arts.

[costargh]

Can you do CSP transfers midyear at UoM?
I thought you could only transfer to full-fee

[*Roxxii*]

If you want to do Commerce at The University of Melbourne, heres one way you can do it

1) Enroll in Bachelor of Arts at Melbourne and transfer 2nd year (use your breadth subjects in your 1st year to take subjects from the Commerce faculty BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TAKE THE MATHS METHODS EQUIVALENT SUBJECT)

Yeah, that is a good way to get into BCom @ UoM if u cant get the enter or haven't done methods.
I have also thought about taking this path (if i dont get the enter i need).
I'm quite sure that the compulsory subjects for BCom can be done in Bachelor of Arts if u choose to major in economics. But to do some of them, you need to have done math methods or equivalent.
http://www.ba.unimelb.edu.au/ugrad/fields/Economics.html
And i think there is only one compulsory artsy subject per semester. 
Also, if you can get the grade average...u can probably transfer after the first semester

[costargh]

WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW ROXIII.... you seem to know what your talking about. Can you explain 2 me a bit more? =S

[livelikeuwanna]

Are there prereq's for breadth studies?

[*Roxxii*]

WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW ROXIII.... you seem to know what your talking about. Can you explain 2 me a bit more? =S

Yeah, i've spent like an hour or so checking this up LOL

Hmm, well...i have planned what i will do if i don't get into commerce

I will do bachelor of arts...and take these 4 subjects in the first semester.
100-188 Philosophy, Politics and Economics (Interdisciplinary Foundation Subject)
316-130 Quantitative Methods
316-102 Introductory Microeconomics (breadth studies)
732-103 Principles of Business Law   

and then transfer into BCom after first semester...or asap! LoL
But hopefully i can get straight into BCom and not worry about all this

Interdisciplinary Foundation Subjects are like compulsory subjects for the arts course.
In the first year, you will be required to select two from the list of eight, (so for each semester, u will have to choose one out of four from the list)
http://www.ba.unimelb.edu.au/ugrad/interdisciplinary-foundation/
I'm pretty sure Quant methods will be counted as part of the arts course if you do a major in commerce.
On the course handbook it is stated that 'The Faculty of Law offers one first-year subject in business law which may be taken as part of the Bachelor of Arts degree.' <-- it is referring to the business law subject i mentioned.
This subject may be useful for BCom if you choose to major in accounting because to to major in accounting, you will need to do a sequence of law subjects (which would also count as your breadth subject when u are doing BCom)
and then finally...Introductory Microeconomics would be your breadth subject.

I do need to check up on how many non-Arts approved subjects can be taken in your degree tho

[*Roxxii*]

Are there prereq's for breadth studies?

That completely depends on which subject you choose to do as breadth.
And then the subjects that are available to you as breadth depend on which course you are doing.

What did you want to major in if you do commerce?
And see the above for subjects i said i would do if i end up taking the arts path...
you can probably do that too, but instead of quantitive methods (it needs math methods as a prereq )
you can do a subject that is equivalent to methods in the first semester, and then take quantitive methods in the second semester.

But as i said before...i am still not entirely sure if this is possible yet.
I will need to check up how many non artsy subjects are allowed...
coz this seems almost too good to be true! LoL

[nak]

Are there prereq's for breadth studies?

they certainly do because they are a subject itself (even though they are breadth) so you need the prerequisites to be able to do the subjects. Though some subjects allow you to take prerequisite subjects alongside the subject you want to take.

so if it allows, then you may be able to do "620-173 Introduction to Mathematics" with intro micro or QM as both of these are core commerce subjects and requires 630-173/methods

Can you do CSP transfers midyear at UoM?
I thought you could only transfer to full-fee

yes melb uni does have CSP mid year intakes for both internal and external transfers.

you can do a subject that is equivalent to methods in the first semester, and then take quantitive methods in the second semester.

620-173 Introduction to Mathematics  =  "This subject is equivalent for pre-requisite purposes to VCE Mathematical Methods 3/4.
Students with a score of 25 or more in VCE Mathematical Methods 3/4 will normally not be permitted to enrol in this subject."

but then it requires unit 1&2 methods...  i hope you've done that or else im not too sure what you can do.

[brendan]

Can you do CSP transfers midyear at UoM?

yes

[brendan]

I was just wondering, how hard is the maths in Bcommerce at Melbourne uni?

This is the textbook that is used for the compulsory quantitative subjects for the BCom at UoM: http://nla.gov.au/anbd.bib-an000040492165

check it out