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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008, 07:07:33 pm »
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One more for the night that I gave up on yesterday.

If , determine the values of and such that .
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008, 07:08:52 pm »
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Therefore,
as required.



on a side note, it is true that , not only limited to even integers, since the definition of the imaginary number is



that was enwiabe's reasoning. I personally don't agree with it that much, as when b or c is a fraction is generally valid only if a is positive.

it is analogous to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_proof#Version_3

i would probably have done this:



but for Damo's sake, it was logical enough :P
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008, 07:09:47 pm »
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One more for the night that I gave up on yesterday.

If , determine the values of x and y such that .







equating real and imaginary:













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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008, 07:13:26 pm »
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Equating real and imaginary parts:

--{1}

--{2}

From {2}:

Substituting into {1}:



Using the quadratic formula with respect to :





(rejecting the negative solution -- since and are real numbers)





or

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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2008, 07:20:19 pm »
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When using the polar form method to obtain roots is ugly and cumbersome, sometimes cartesian expansion will do the job more efficiently (especially if its just square roots).

You can do it with higher powers to obtain some fairly cool trigonometric equalities too.

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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2008, 07:24:38 pm »
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Thanks Mao and Coblin. What great, helpful and kind people we have on here. Thanks alot!

When using the polar form method to obtain roots is ugly and cumbersome, sometimes cartesian expansion will do the job more efficiently (especially if its just square roots).

You can do it with higher powers to obtain some fairly cool trigonometric equalities too.

I've just finished Conjugates and division of complex numbers.
I'm going to learn Polar form of Complex Numbers tomorrow and the basic operations of them.
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2008, 08:10:46 pm »
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Here is another way to do it,


If I can find the complex form of point E, I can readjust the length of this complex number so that it's and I'll be done.

AB was extended so that angle ABE = ADC. Simple arithmetic shows that . Therefore is isosceles therefore, .

Therefore, is similar to , this means,

, and since we have

Therefore adjusting to make it have length gives , and we mustn't forget the other negative solution, therefore .
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2008, 08:15:38 pm »
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2008, 09:54:33 pm »
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on a side note, it is true that , not only limited to even integers, since the definition of the imaginary number is

It is true only for even natural numbers.

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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2008, 10:25:10 pm »
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did you try using any non-even decimal numbers?

n=0.24692 works
n=-19.6 also works...
works also...
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2008, 08:55:26 am »
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I was referring to the original question. What I meant to say was, it is not true for odd natural numbers. You said it is not only limited to even integers. You have to think complex consistently. I think you have missed the essence of the question.
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2008, 09:32:57 am »
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I was referring to the original question. What I meant to say was, it is not true for odd natural numbers. You said it is not only limited to even integers. You have to think complex consistently. I think you have missed the essence of the question.

please explain how it is not true for odd natural numbers.
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2008, 10:03:51 am »
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There is another value for (-1)^(1/2) besides i. Think complex.

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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2008, 10:44:39 am »
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the notation of is equivalent to , which is the principle square root.

if the question did not mean the principle square root, it would have been presented as
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Re: Complex Number Help!
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2008, 11:21:00 am »
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Problems arise for the odd powers when taking